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<aamehedi> hi everyone :)
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<idkwtf> Greetings!
<idkwtf> You guys going to RubyConf?
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<leftylink> dang, I've gone one year, but haven't found the time to go back
<leftylink> not sure my present company covers the full cost though, which is unfortunate
<idkwtf> :/
<idkwtf> Same here, but how about next year?
<idkwtf> Would be really cool if I could manage to get it hosted at the Oslo Opera
<idkwtf> I know the people who built it, plus I'm 100% sure that https://www.innovasjonnorge.no/en/start-page/ will provide the funding
<leftylink> or hey maybe if I change jobs and my new job has a larger per-person budget that would change things
<idkwtf> Yup!
<idkwtf> Ideally though, tickets should be free. And there should be a fund in place to help people with airline tickets and BnB's.
<adam12> I didn't, because I'm cheap, and I think my social skills have atrophied.
<idkwtf> They owe me a favor, plus this would be huge for Norway's universities and various programming communities.
<idkwtf> lol
<adam12> I wouldn't mind if Rubyconf was held further north. Michigan/Ohio? I might go then. If it requires a flight, I'm less inclined.
<idkwtf> Nah, you're alright mate :)
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<adam12> idkwtf: You should go to Euruko.
<idkwtf> Idk
<adam12> idkwtf: or do you?
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<idkwtf> Yeah, I assume the North West Passage hasn't fully melted yet
<idkwtf> Never heard of it
<idkwtf> Nice!
<idkwtf> (otherwise you could come by boat)
<idkwtf> That is so cool, thanks for sharing. Finland has always been a step ahead of everybody else.
<adam12> idkwtf: Yeah! You should go. In fact, I'm jealous of your ability to visit all those locations with reasonable ease.
<adam12> RubyConf 2023 is in San Diego, so I guess I'm not likely to go to that one either.
<idkwtf> I definitely will.
<adam12> And looking at the notes, it seems like videos for RubyConf 2022 will be delayed until at least Feb/March, as they are running a home-conf version in January.
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<idkwtf> I dunno about that, my ability to move around all depends on my Ruby social network. And yeah, if it starts making money, you guys can just copy the blueprint if you wanna make money for yourselves too!
<idkwtf> That sorta figures:
<idkwtf> "We recognize that Houston is not currently a safe travel destination for many marginalized members of the Ruby community. Our team has given this extensive thought and would like to share the following information with our community."
<idkwtf> Which is kinda funny because I just signed this black rapper from Houston and if any of us were to get into trouble he could come to the rescue.
<idkwtf> Bunch of black Range Rovers with tinted windows.
<adam12> I actually could of drove to Rubyconf Mini it seems. I guess I didn't look close enough.
<idkwtf> (Houston's the only city outside Norway where I can claim to offer protection)
<idkwtf> 2023 is already set to be in San Diego? :(
<adam12> It looks like it.
<idkwtf> hmmm
<idkwtf> Yup, right in your neighborhood
<adam12> I actually don't remember Rubyconf ever being east of Cincinnati, OH (which might be the furthest east it's ever been).
<idkwtf> Cool, Jared Norman (brotherman from Solidus.io)
<idkwtf> It's always been in the US?
<adam12> RubyConf has.
<adam12> It's the OG Ruby conference.
<idkwtf> hehe
<adam12> Maybe they could hold one in Toronto :P
<idkwtf> :D
<idkwtf> Can't wait for the North West Passage to melt!
<idkwtf> Canada's New Shipping Shortcut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcDwtO4RWmo
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<adam12> I can't get debug.gem to break on the right line and it's driving me bananas.
<idkwtf> Hey speaking of which
<idkwtf> Trying to do what you did with Gemdocs but for all the BSD-based operating systems
<idkwtf> And if that works, do the same for all Linux distributions
<idkwtf> I can imagine you can replicate Gemdocs for most other programming languages as well?
<adam12> idkwtf: Probably. I'm just listening for a webhook, generating documentation, then storing+serving it.
<idkwtf> In the case of OpenBSD, man.openbsd.org is an eyesore and could use some solid Markdown coupled with some professional typography.
<idkwtf> I see
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<adam12> idkwtf: I'm eventually going to start modifying the documentation generation to be a bit more custom, but it's been hard to find the time.
<idkwtf> Yeah I was curious why you haven't done that
<adam12> And I was locally storing the data, then I switched to a network block device, and now I'm migrating to a S3/webdav like mechanism.
<adam12> I haven't done it because I don't want to build on YARD any further. I'd _like_ to offer YARD like functionality in rdoc, and perhaps unify the documentation process somehow, instead of it being split as it is.
<adam12> But it needs time, and I've been insanely busy with consulting.
<idkwtf> Well it seems to me you're sitting on a goldmine
<adam12> But I start "vacation" December 8, so maybe I am going to find some time over the holidays.
<adam12> For now, the system is working and met the original goals.
<idkwtf> Yeah that's what's most important I guess
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<idkwtf> Nice, by Dec 8 I should have a demo
<idkwtf> I was thinking just scraping those man pages with Nokogiri and then using Kramdown for layout
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<idkwtf> Anyway it's all your idea so
<adam12> There's someone doing an rdoc-markdown plugin for something similar.
<adam12> I'm trying not to turn Gemdocs into a make-work project. That's why the goals are so narrow.
<idkwtf> Ah yeah, same here
<adam12> I'd be happy if I can just visit gemdocs.org and look at any gem docs I want, instantly. Anything above and beyond is bonus.
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<adam12> Tho I've started archiving every gem released too, and was thinking about offering some mechanism to code search it. But that's still in the thinking stage.
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<adam12> Last I heard, gem-codesearch requires like 500GB or more, which is more than many modern laptops. I could maybe offer a restricted shell with all access to gem code.
<idkwtf> Jesus!
<idkwtf> But yeah the idea here is to make bsddocs.net the premier way of reading any related BSD documentation
<adam12> I often like searching for how people use specific pieces of Ruby code.
<adam12> (like Rack::Config, which I've hardly seen in the wild)
<idkwtf> I don't want it to be "make-work" either, but it sure sounds nice for backlinks!
<idkwtf> hmmm
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<idkwtf> I reckon you'd have to make your own Github or Codepen for that last part?
<adam12> idkwtf: Not if I'm archiving all Ruby gem source code :) then it might be as simple as `rg Rack::Config`. Heh.
<idkwtf> For looking up snippets
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<adam12> Doesnt' cover non-gems but that's OK.
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<idkwtf> Can't wait to see how it turns out
<adam12> Me too. Everything is taking forever tho.
<adam12> Everything was simpler with a block device. Now I have to both upload to a remote server but also proxy to it...
<idkwtf> Yeah :/
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<idkwtf> Block device?
<idkwtf> Ah I get it
<adam12> idkwtf: A local filesystem.
<idkwtf> :)
<idkwtf> Yup
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<idkwtf> Eventually I think Gemdocs should have its own custom made general-purpose body font, like Twitter and Medium
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<idkwtf> Like if we could get this guy to do it (I've probably shared this link before): Tobias Frere-Jones: Break Things Deliberatly -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVamkuQXl4
<idkwtf> Been thinking maybe approaching https://klim.co.nz/ as a more affordable alternative
<adam12> Wouldn't work. I only use system fonts :P
<idkwtf> Damnit! :D
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<adam12> Can't spell gemdocs without PERFORMANCE
<idkwtf> It's just messed up that everybody has their own idea of what a sans-serif font is
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<idkwtf> Helvetica Neue Pro is pretty much the gold standard. Windows uses Arial which is a cheap knock-off
<idkwtf> Google just made Google Sans, but only they're allowed to use it
<idkwtf> Be sure to grab this if y'all have the chance: Helvetica - Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkoX0pEwSCw
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<idkwtf> All my sites are embedding it by default. Despite the performance, I believe it's the right thing to do in the long run.
<idkwtf> Fonts will come and go but in 50-100 years I believe Helvetica will still remain the greatest font ever made.
* idkwtf huge font geek :lol:
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