cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: #pypy PyPy, the flexible snake https://pypy.org | IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end and https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/pypy | the pypy angle is to shrug and copy the implementation of CPython as closely as possible, and staying out of design decisions
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<fijal> cfbolz: ping
<cfbolz> yesish?
<fijal> I'm not sure how useful it is, but I think that betse (https://github.com/betsee/betse) is way closer to commercial python code I saw than most open source software
<fijal> I don't know if it's useful, because it uses numpy
<fijal> but it *is* somewhat representative
<cfbolz> ok
<fijal> but it's also a useful benchmark for numpy, I guess
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<vext01> where is the _pypy_openssl module supposed to come from?
<vext01> building cffi modules fails finding this...
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<cfbolz> vext01: all of these are in lib_pypy
<cfbolz> and they are built by one of the files there
<cfbolz> in this case _ssl_build.py
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<vext01> cfbolz: _ssl_build.py actually succeeds, but it's done *after* build_cffi_imports.py spits out an error about it not existing...
<vext01> see it spits all those hash errors out, then later:
<vext01> * _ssl_build.py
<vext01> which appears to succeed
<vext01> (this is pypy3.9-v7.3.11 in case this matters)
<vext01> (i also switched the build to using openssl-1.1, not libressl, since that was a headache)
<tumbleweed> vext01: that's normal
<tumbleweed> it's not an error
<vext01> oh, right :P
<tumbleweed> if you run it again, you'll see no errors and it'll do nothing
<vext01> so it uses the slow version just for bootstrap?
<tumbleweed> or it just doesn't have some hash functions while bootstrapping hashlib
<vext01> cool, thanks
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