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<guso78> Today's log is not available. is there an issue with the system ?
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<guso78> Rather than create shells, probably you want to try the cura "Vase mode"
<guso78> cura even as a native option to create molds!
<guso78> teepee, i have looked at the 2796 PR and results look amazing. Its just bad fate the the PR did not yet make it into the main branch yet, this could potentially generate some discourage ...
<teepee> yes, the last meters are always the difficult ones unfortunately
<teepee> but it's always possible to pick things up again if someone finds some time and motivation
<guso78> The idea of my extrude_path is different tough( i believe). in my option, extrude_path result has an exact and unique result,
<guso78> extrude_path gets detailled focus when used with low profile polygon count and low extrude path count, where the "cos(b)" correct will get a dominant role.
<guso78> let me come back when i believe i have managed to implement my idea interely, so  i can show, what i mean ...
<guso78> teepee i agree, that you can always pick up old PR's and ideas, but as time goes by, merging master will become more difficult as master is constantly experienceing changes and in some point in time, merging will be almost impossible ...
<guso78> sorry" low profile point count"
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<Guest3578> hello
<Guest3578> i try to build a docker container for openscad. it seems something is broken with t-paul´s dependencies
<Guest3578> any ideas?
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<teepee> what's wrong?
<teepee> Guest3578?
<teepee> Guest3578: also which docker image specifically?
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<nbr0wn> I'm using this one reliably: https://github.com/DSchroer/openscad-wasm
<nbr0wn> It's a wasm build, but all the dependencies seem solid. You might be able to just crib the dockerfile
<teepee> that's the "normal" non-wasm images
<teepee> that works fine for me: docker run -v $(pwd):/openscad openscad/openscad:egl openscad CSG.scad -o csg.png
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<guso78> is it possible to create an animation in NON-GUI mode with openscad ?
<teepee> yes
<teepee> --animate 10
<teepee> although there's some cases reported where it fails after a couple of iterations
<guso78> òk thanks.
<guso78> just got GUI animation working with python:)  :)
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<guso78> I try to dump the Pictures in the GUI and i select the Checkbox. Usually remember that  i says 'Export GIFxxxx'  and i have tons of pictures, but nothing happens.
<guso78> I notice 6 gray rectangles below 'Dump Pictures' but I dont know, what they are used for.
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<teepee> the animation must be running to export images
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<guso78> hmm, yes, but it does not. must be an error on my side ....
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<guso78> teepee, this is the demonstration of my path_extrude function, which i am imagine ... it works with any profile and any extrude path len ...
<othx> guso78 linked to YouTube video "OpenSCAD path_extrude demonstration" => 1 IRC mentions
<teepee> what is that xdir?
<guso78> xdir is a hint where to direct the x axis for drawing the first profile on the very bottom
<guso78> all subsequent angles are derived from this
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<guso78> if first segment of the extrude path is exactly vertical,  xdir wil exactly match, if first segment of extrude path shows towards x, my cross product is zero and have quite some fallback haha
<guso78> i admit its not yet perfect. i believe the joint profiles must be parallelograms instead of squares to be absolutely correct.
<guso78> thus x and y vector dont have to be  normal to each other there ...
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<teepee> it might be a good idea to bring that topic up on the mailing list as there's at least one of the BOSL2 developers who has quite some experience with their path extrude code
<teepee> and the questions and issues should be pretty much independent on the language used to do the extrusion
<guso78> teepee is it same as openscad mailing list ?
<teepee> yes
<teepee> discuss@lists.openscad.org
<teepee> there was some discussion related to that topic not long ago, not sure I can find that quickly
<guso78> I will better ask, i doubt they  agree on writing their lib in python ...
<guso78> hmm, actually only the openscad parser is missing ...
<teepee> I suppose the question would be how to get it into the openscad core, so it could be used from whatever language
<guso78> i think it could become a better task. I extended LineaExtrudeNode with some fields and used it for path_extrude in addition, but clean way would be to to have a dedicated new Node.
<guso78> bigger task
<teepee> but that's pretty much an implementation detail
<teepee> the main question is how to get the results stable enough so people can use it without it failing every 3rd time with random errors
<guso78> yes, implementation is still lacking. i am in doubt that the cross section is always correct.  Another thing is that its quite vulnerable to self-intersection, when not used correctly, but i believe this can be fixed by using an "1-object-union" in the end.
<teepee> not with the "normal" cgal union
<JordanBrown[m]> Conceptually I have always thought that the self-intersection problem was simple: imagine taking a physical piece and sweeping it along the path; any space that it sweeps through should be included in the final object, whether it sweeps through once, twice, or a dozen times. *Implementing* that, however, is something else entirely.
<guso78> somewhere i read you want to get rid of the CGAL anyway . The successor just needs to proof that its better
<teepee> we probably can't just drop it completely, but Manifold does promise to produce always geometry that matches the name of the library :)
<teepee> that said, I'm not sure what the input requirements are, so if that would be also Manifold input, that means same problem as in CGAL when we generate geometry ourselves instead of via CSG primitives
<teepee> on the plus side, eliah has Math covered, which is very good baseline :)
<teepee> not saying CGAL people don't, they certainly have the math knowledge, but in some cases it seems the code is more targeting Math ideals instead of practical stable results
<teepee> so I suppose it's more that the goals are not perfectly aligning with what OpenSCAD needs
<guso78> teepee, i really wished, that i a) imported stl from the internet b) difference it with a cube to cut off something c) it would always succeed haha
<teepee> indeed
<guso78> coming back to yesterdays' topic: are there tools/git functions/methods to PR a single feature of my branch to the upstream or is it rather handcrafted work ?
<teepee> the cleanest way is to get that upstream remote sorted, then checkout a branch based on upstream/python-support and put the stuff that should go into the PR into that local branch
<teepee> pushing this branch to github should automatically give the option to create a pull request - may need selecting python-support again, instead of master
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