11:31 <discocaml> <froyo> was looking at the learning section wireframe, it's the other way around with experience levels lol

11:31 <discocaml> <froyo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/436568060288172044/1123213907708870706/image.png

11:33 <discocaml> <froyo> best practices section is very useful and should be pushed all the way up imo

11:37 <discocaml> <froyo> you wanna find out what the magic incantation is to start a dune project more often than you'd be interested in calling c functions

16:22 <discocaml> <dexmax> How do I use an opam package in my dune project?

16:25 <dmbaturin> Reference it in the (libraries ...) ?

16:26 <discocaml> <dexmax> I did that and put open in the top of my main.ml, but I am getting a syntax error

16:26 <discocaml> <dexmax> And I ensured I installed the package with opam

16:28 <dmbaturin> It's difficult to tell without seeing the error at least.

16:31 <discocaml> <dexmax> I just have in my main.ml

16:31 <discocaml> <dexmax> open "xml-light"

16:31 <discocaml> <dexmax> let _ = print_endlune "Test"

16:32 <discocaml> <dexmax> And in my dune

16:32 <discocaml> <dexmax> (executable

16:32 <discocaml> <dexmax> (public_name project)

16:32 <discocaml> <dexmax> (name main)

16:32 <discocaml> <dexmax> (libraries xml-light project))

16:32 <discocaml> <dexmax> Not sure if I'm doing something right because I can't find any docs online about importing packages from opam

16:32 <discocaml> <znaniye> someone using nix here?

16:34 <dmbaturin> Well, first, module names are not the same as opam package names. The module that xml-light provides is named Xml, and the statement to open it is `open Xml` (although opening modules globally isn't a necessary). Second, there's a typo in `print_endline`.

16:35 <discocaml> <dexmax> Thanks, where did you find the module name? Also where can I find the docs for using opam packages?

16:36 <discocaml> <dexmax> None of the docs that I have seen have mentioned anything about open

16:39 <dmbaturin> In the docs, although you can also browse the tab completion in utop. `#require "xml-light"`, type some names and see completions.

16:41 <dmbaturin> There's https://docs.ocaml.pro if you want a large documentation hub. It's not as large or widely adopted as docs.rs (yet) so it will not free you from having to look up individual libs docs or browse them, but it's better than nothing.

16:45 <dmbaturin> Also, you may want to look at https://opam.ocaml.org/packages/ezxmlm/ if you want an XML parser. It's more actively maintained, although there are things I do like about xml-light.

16:57 <discocaml> <dexmax> Thanks for the help

18:26 <discocaml> <._null._> dmbaturin: https://ocaml.org/packages for docs nowadays

18:31 <dmbaturin> Oh, wow, I missed that development!

20:16 <olle> yo yo camels, I'm still looking for a proper sexp diff output to show exactly the difference

20:16 <olle> Any tips?

20:16 <olle> No Base please...

20:17 <discocaml> <sim642> Most sexp stuff is Jane Street related though, in OCaml that is

20:19 <olle> discocaml: :(

20:19 <olle> Oh wait

20:19 <olle> Wrong

20:19 <olle> sim642: :(

20:19 <dmbaturin> I wish people used them less...

20:19 <olle> There

20:20 <olle> Used sexp less?

20:21 <dmbaturin> Yes.

20:21 <olle> Why? Or what instead?

20:21 <olle> How to compare types?

20:21 <dmbaturin> ...a sexp differ wouldn't be too hard to make, I think.

20:22 <olle> Well I want pretty output

20:22 <olle> But yeah, I guess

20:22 <discocaml> <deepspacejohn> for diffing output, Dune's expect tests or cram tests are both seem pretty good IMO.

20:23 <dmbaturin> Well, my biggest question for a spec for such a tool would be the output format. For a simple diff(1)-like output, a sexp _normalizer_/pretty-printer and a regular diff(1) would do.

20:38 <olle> Hm

20:38 <olle> deepspace, can Dune do diff natively?

20:47 <discocaml> <deepspacejohn> I’m not sure

20:48 <olle> kk

21:38 <noob1> hi ,I am  new to programming ,I have done lots of research and find out that ocaml is used as a first language to teach programming

21:39 <noob1> can i do the same by my own

21:39 <noob1> because i cant afford attending a college or university

21:40 <noob1> I am patient and I want to do the right thing not the easiest thing available to do

22:01 <discocaml> <anurag_soni> olle: not sure why you want to avoid Janestreet libraries. They have a library that fits this need https://github.com/janestreet/sexp_diff