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<pgwipeout[m]> 🤣
<pgwipeout[m]> At least it knows
<alyssa> https://rosenzweig.io/boot.ini <--- sketchy thing
<alyssa> wait. vmlinuz != zImage
<pgwipeout[m]> Huh, that's the first time I've seen one of those. I've always used extlinux or grub.
<alyssa> "check kernel and dtb images" goran
<alyssa> I think it should be booti actually
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<pgwipeout[m]> That's arm32?
<alyssa> arm64
<pgwipeout[m]> Oh. Uh uboot doesn't like compressed arm64 kernels generally. Something they just started working on.
<alyssa> so no precompiled debian kernel for me? :-(
<pgwipeout[m]> Afaik grub or efi is the only arm64 service that can cope. It's up to the bootloader to decompress it and U-Boot doesn't support that
<alyssa> sigh
<alyssa> Guess I'll build a kernel myself tomorrow. Boo :(
<pgwipeout[m]> You could decompress it yourself.
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<pgwipeout[m]> Then pass the decompressed kernel to u-boot.
<alyssa> worth a try 🤷
<pgwipeout[m]> When I was digging into this a few days ago someone suggested scripting it and hooking into the install scripts.
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<pgwipeout[m]> I'm still waiting for ubuntu to support compressed modules correctly.
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<pgwipeout[m]> Good evening Kevery, or good morning I believe for you.
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<CounterPillow> Should I wait for more feedback before sending a V2 of a patchset? I don't wanna be too spammy with my submissions
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<robmur01> FWIW, I'd say unless you're changing so much that it's not worth people spending time looking at the previous version at all, or it's already well-reviewed and you're just making final tweaks to be merge-ready, then I'd typically suggest waiting at least a week between postings
<CounterPillow> Alright, noted.
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<alyssa> robmur01: where is this documented? it just bit me. and this seems like a great way to bite newcomers frmo the github/lab world where you repush to an MR as soon as you address feedback
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<robmur01> alyssa: My opinions are not formally documented anywhere :P It's far from a universal rule, just my experience with the particular subsystems and maintainers I've worked with over the years, and consequently it's the kind of cadence I've grown to prefer as a reviewer
<robmur01> I believe netdev moves a lot faster, for example
<robmur01> if I get sent 3 versions of a series in as many days, it purposely gets ignored for at *least* another week ;)
<alyssa> But... why?
<mmind00> alyssa: I guess generally you want to collect as much review from different people as possible per version, so if there is essentially one version for each review from A,B,C [over said 3+ days as people tend to not review patches when they hit their inbox ;-) ] it overloads people over said 3 days, it will overload peoples review capacity
<robmur01> I've even had people send a new version in response to part of a review I'm in the middle of, before I've even got to the end of the series - that's super-annoying
<mmind00> that last part should've just been "... it overloads peoples review capacity"
<alyssa> again, how is this different from github/lab where you just repush as much as you want so people aren't looking at stale code?
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<CounterPillow> people look grumpily at their unread email inbox counter, I guess
<robmur01> because when you have several different threads in your inbox all mixed up because other people's reviews have overlapped, there's a fair chance you *do* end up looking at stale code
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<robmur01> versioning is one thing the email patch review process is the worst at
<alyssa> definitely a huge point for gitlab imho
<robmur01> if I need to spend half a day or more paging in context to properly review something, I'd rather have some confidence that that review isn't already going to be out-of-date by the time I've finished it
<robmur01> plus experience has shown a fair correlation between patches which get respun really quickly and patches where the details haven't been well thought-through
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<robmur01> I can think of some things which got to around v5 or v6 respinning for trivial comments before I've looked and pointed out something fundamentally wrong
<robmur01> but at a glance, if something has reached v6 with apparent active review, as a maintainer or reviewer you'd be inclined to assume that major issues should have been worked out already, so may not be looking so hard
<robmur01> another pain with email is dredging up all the previous discussion to remember what changed and/or was already discussed and avoid going round in circles
<robmur01> waiting *too* long (i.e. months) between versions is also detrimental to that :)
<robmur01> the best rule of thumb is probably to look at how fast the maintainers/reviewers for the relevant subsystem tend to respond, and try to match that kind of pace
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<alyssa> robmur01: if you're trying to convince me that email review workflows aren't good, you've made some excellent points 😇
<robmur01> After ~8 years, my relationship with email patch review is basically Stockholm syndrome. But at least it's not Gerrit..
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<alyssa> Woof woof.
<clarity> meow.
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