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<enebo[m]> fun new bisect experience. bash shell script changes for a while was not properly emitting --dev so I cannot use launcher to find an interp point (now switching to runnign a java command-line)
<headius> Ha
<headius> Yeah we transitioned to the shell script just this year
<headius> Which I have to say is pretty nice given how old the bash on Mac OS is and the growing prevalence of zsh
<enebo[m]> yeah. I was just surprised to see the bisect end on some launcher changes then realize it was running things differently during some sequence of stuff
<enebo[m]> It is fine. It is just code which changed just something I did not think would happen sort of scenario
<enebo[m]> fun stuff...this wrong backtrace happens in 9.3 as well if CompileMode=OFF
<enebo[m]> but now I am wondering if our current script is emitting what it should here
<enebo[m]> not that we should run differently with that toggled
<enebo[m]> no ignore that
<enebo[m]> 9.3 launcher is emitting the same stuff
<enebo[m]> So this backtrace regression is quite old
<enebo[m]> If I had to lay money I would put it onto my work to consolidate all runtime to using StaticScope over IRScope
<enebo[m]> but this will take more digging since it is much older than I thought
<enebo[m]> Yeah so when in interp the backtrace is wrong for define_method with a block but if it is forced or jitted it is fine
<enebo[m]> With that said with normal JIT settings 9.3 runs mocha's unit tests without hitting this
<enebo[m]> Even with --dev
<enebo[m]> but who knows what is loaded which may change a 2.6 vs a 3.1 impl
<enebo[m]> Possibly things are being called differently
<enebo[m]> I guess I will investigate the obvious mistake I found and see if all is well
<enebo[m]> I really wanted to just see a bisect commit
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<lopex[m]> is this big ?
<headius> It's pretty big news but mostly it tells me that Oracle has not been able to make money off of native compilation
<lopex[m]> haha, yeah
<lopex[m]> or whatever reason
<lopex[m]> and we kind of know what it is already
<lopex[m]> but the warmup will be worse anyways with graal
<lopex[m]> I havent read lately about saved profile info etc
<lopex[m]> is it still a thing ?
<lopex[m]> the view option at https://invisible-characters.com/ might be useful
<lopex[m]> I wonder if https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/ has omething like that
<lopex[m]> no too many
<lopex[m]> enebo: hiya
<enebo[m]> lopex: howdy
<lopex[m]> it seems we'll have a meltdown here now after winter falls
<enebo[m]> we had a lot of snow today here. I just got in from shovelling
<lopex[m]> it now looks like this here https://katowice.webcamera.pl/
<enebo[m]> I should have probably used the snowblower but the cable to engage is starting to stretch out
<lopex[m]> so I proclaim end if winter
<enebo[m]> gotta get some dinner but we are having the opposite of a meltdown
<lopex[m]> enebo: so it seems that for youre geo the weather is different than here, we're used to long harsh winters, but well, some 20 years ago
<enebo[m]> minneapolis may or may not be similar. I don't remember
<lopex[m]> I think you're prone for more continental weather, whereas then wind from the west are affecting us mostly now
<enebo[m]> we have had more mild winters but part of it is polar vortex where jet stream over north america pushes further south than it used to
<lopex[m]> you're just deep in the continent
<enebo[m]> So milder but when that happens it is colder
<enebo[m]> but that push was much more rare 20 years ago. It happens more now
<enebo[m]> anyways gotta jet
<lopex[m]> oh
<lopex[m]> I woneder if it's the winds or being deep in the continent dominates
<lopex[m]> enebo: btw the most harsh winter was at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuguEdc8TjQ
<lopex[m]> it paralyzed the whole country, but well we were at sovier economics back then
<lopex[m]> so who know wchich was worse haha
<lopex[m]> enebo: imagine those soviet era cars