<beerman>
just thinking that there is gcc 13, binutils, glibc.. python even, enough to get the toes wet so the next release, whichever that will be, won't take as long as the last
<jue>
well, if you update all of that, it's a 3.8 and not 3.7.1 IMO
<jue>
but at all, I'm with jaeger, no objections if we need one
<jaeger>
Yeah, would just aim for 3.8, I feel
<beerman>
sounds good to me, did you have a chance to read through what farkuhar collects? What are your thoughts? a lot of things sound good, e.g. ripping out md5sum support, then again there is people still using that..
<beerman>
and for something else: can anybody try and rebuild binutils? it fails for me on one machine, a similiar error i am seeing for harfbuzz on multiple machines already
<beerman>
can't reproduce it in a container myself.. weird.. one of the machines encountering it is farely barebone
<jaeger>
Will give it a try momentarily
<jaeger>
No problems in 1 container, other is still building and I'll try it on a physical host
<jaeger>
Some comments on the possible todo stuff for 3.7.1/3.8 - Personally I don't think we need an MTA in core at all. Fine with seeing if we can trim some opt packages, all good. I would advocate for removing 'depinst' from prt-get entirely, or at least making 'install' do the same thing. That's part of what I'm doing with cpkg if I ever have enough time.
<jaeger>
Also, does anyone actually use 'grpinst'? I can't think of a single time I've ever used it.
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<jaeger>
No problems with binutils in the 2 containers I tested, or the 1 physical host
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<farkuhar>
jaeger: Alan proposed dropping the dedicated 'grpinst' command ten years ago. His patch would have made stop-on-error into a recognized option for all the prt-get operations (install, update, depinst, sysup). https://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux-devel/2013-August/004066.html
<farkuhar>
I liked the idea of not using a dedicated command for group installs, so I merged Alan's patch into the prt-get fork that I've been working on.