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<jaeger>
argh, keep getting random build failures in the bootstrap on the ISO builder. ppp is one of the weird ones, worked fine in stage 0 and 1, fails in stage 2 sometimes... annoying
<braewoods>
aren't build failures supposed to be deterministic? that's weird.
<braewoods>
could it be due to race conditions?
<braewoods>
race conditions can cause build failures when parallel builds are used in the absence of proper build dependencies
<braewoods>
and due to being race conditions the failure are non-deterministic, basically unpredictable
<jaeger>
Seems likely, yeah, but usually a make -j1 fixes those, I have some builtin for a port or two, including gnu-efi and ppp
<jaeger>
ppp still fails sometimes
<braewoods>
what's ppp for these days?
<braewoods>
iirc, it was used for DSL, no?
<jaeger>
People using DSL, probably
<braewoods>
so it's only relevant if CRUX is the gateway router
<braewoods>
that's one package you could probably disable without any serious consequences
<braewoods>
i suspect most people use a dedicated box for DSL
<braewoods>
jaeger: can you give a log of the failure?
<jaeger>
I restarted it some time ago and didn't save that one, sorry. If I run into it again I'll save it
<jaeger>
I vaguely remember it being related to a failed directory/file creation and a no such file or directory error, which seemed to back up the race condition theory
<beerman>
i agree that keeping ppp on the iso seems kind of pointless nowadays