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<marcan> is there any standard for describing SoC and CPU model human-readable names in the DT? if not, should there be?
<marcan> AIUI right now userspace needs a table from CPU and SoC compatibles to human-readable names, but I don't know of any standard for that akin to pci-ids, and it seems really silly when we have a device tree that could just contain human-readable model properties for them
<marcan> we do have `model` in the DT root for human-readable device name, why not also have it in CPU nodes and maybe some other property for an overall SoC name?
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<broonie> marcan: we have a similar property on the sound cards FWIW (because the plastics are important to configuration) so there’s some precedent.
<broonie> The arm64 arch maintainers have been very resistant to adding names in the kernel because of the issues with marketing and renames.
<broonie> That’s not the DT though
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<marcan> broonie: Yeah, the DT already has a device name, it seems logical to also have SoC and CPU core names, which are the things userspace sysinfo type apps care about the most
<broonie> marcan: for the cores specifically the theory is that the ID numbers are already exported via sysfs so userspace can have a table of ID to meaningful names if it wants it.
<marcan> yeah, but then that table needs to be updated for every new core...
<marcan> and there is no single source of truth in userspace for this right now
<marcan> adding Apple's latest core every year (plus whatever ARM is coming up with) seems kind of a waste of time when we already deal with all of that in the device tree anyway
<marcan> plus IIRC they use different IDs for different SoCs for what is fundamentally the same core
<marcan> so it's even more of a mess for Apple
<marcan> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/blob/main/src/chickens.c#L9 I don't think maintaining that table in userspace, on top of here and in the DTs, makes much sense...
<broonie> Yeah, just relaying the policy here not making it.
<broonie> I don’t know if people’s opinions on the DT would be different to the kernel itself.
<marcan> IMO they should be, this is the kind of thing the DT is for (describing the hardware, not just for kernels but also humans)
<marcan> cc robher?
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