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<ukleinek>
lag: Earlier today I considered pinging you about some mfd patches. I didn't because I thought it's too close to the opening of the merge window. Great you picked them now and without ping!
<lag>
ukleinek: I'm only picking up trivials, as the merge window is already open
<lag>
ukleinek: Been super busy of late, so I'm catching up really
<ukleinek>
lag: I had 3 patches for you and I'm ready to ping them after the merge window if you don't consider the other two trivial enough :-)
<lag>
ukleinek: I'm not taking 'new' patches - only ones where it's my fault that they haven't been applied already
<lag>
ukleinek: Nice try though!
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<gpiccoli>
Does anybody else have problems of "bounces" from linux-arm-kernel, to the point infradead cancel the mail subscription? It's happening only in linux-arm-kernel list, gmail address. It seems infradead doesn't like gmail...
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<ardb>
gpiccoli: only twice a week
<gpiccoli>
=O
<gpiccoli>
do you have an idea of the reason behind that? Why only infradead's list face this issue?
<ardb>
maybe arnd remembers? i think we even agreed on a solution but we never implemented it (cmarinas might remember as well)
<gpiccoli>
cool, tnx a ardb ! if there is any workaround at least, I'd be glad to know, to prevent getting automatically unsubscribed so frequently...
<gpiccoli>
*tnx a lot
<ardb>
i don't think there is tbh
<gpiccoli>
=/
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<ukleinek>
lag: I don't know your metrics, and didn't have anything improper on mind. The other two patches I had in mind are from January without any feedback ...
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* ukleinek
takes that back, you *said* you had them applied, but they are not in next yet
* ukleinek
would claim they qualify for "it's lag's fault that they haven't been applied already" :-)
* ukleinek
resists the obvious play on words
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<geertu>
gpiccoli: I'm resubscribing about twice a week, too.
<geertu>
Lately I've also been suffering from gmail pseudo-randomly refusing email forwarded from my linux-m68k.org address
<gpiccoli>
weird geertu - seems gmail for some reason is not proper for kernel lists, but I'd be glad to understand why at least...
<broonie>
gpiccoli: gmail just can't cope with mailing lists full stop, there's a big concept mismatch.
<geertu>
gpiccoli: It's getting worse and worse.
<gpiccoli>
broonie, i didn't understand - full stop? Apologies for my bad english
* geertu
remembers when you could copy-and-paste a patch into the gmail web interface, preserving whitespace.
<broonie>
gpiccoli: at all.
<gpiccoli>
geertu, that was before the 7th or the 19th interface re-design? /me barfs at gmail UI
<gpiccoli>
oh okay broonie , but...why?! What they do that bounces so much and what's the reason no mailing list complains, except infradead's ?
<broonie>
Essentially all mailing list admins routinely complain about it.
<gpiccoli>
gmail is not my first choice, definitely - it's a email backup "server" for me. Easy to set, cheap...and works most of the times
<geertu>
gpiccoli: Debian lists, too.
<gpiccoli>
ohhh
<gpiccoli>
wasn't aware of that
<broonie>
vger has huge issues
<gpiccoli>
blargh - maybe I need to move from gmail...
<broonie>
It's a combination of people reporting mail they don't like that happened to come through a list as spam, them not liking forwarded mail in various ways, not liking one system sending a constant large volume of mail...
<broonie>
Unless you're sending mail directly, preferably a limited volume of mail, gmail is going to get upset with you in various ways.
<gpiccoli>
bummer ={
<Xogium>
gpiccoli: can't comment on the service, as I never used it, but one of my friend uses migadu, and it seems to be good
<Xogium>
I don't know for linux ml how it is, but there are different plans
<Xogium>
this is like, not self-hosted emails, but you have your own domains kind of things
<gpiccoli>
very interesting Xogium , thanks!! Seems a great service..although I bit high price for multi-ML usage it seems...
<geertu>
ukleinek: I'm aware of lei.
<Xogium>
gpiccoli: yeah. You could always try and contact them, see what they think
<geertu>
But it requires changing my workflow.
<Xogium>
gpiccoli: they can also do custom plans
<geertu>
Should I complain? If akpm managed to switch to git....
<gpiccoli>
interesting ukleinek - I was also aware of lei, maybe it's an option, but I'd like to keep the backup-all-ML to some mail service heh
<Xogium>
might cost a bit, but I reason that at least then you wouldn't have to deal with google's crap ever again, at least for ml traffic
<ukleinek>
gpiccoli: lore.kernel.org is a great backup ... :-)
<gpiccoli>
cool Xogium - nice to know, it might be very good for personal email!!! Liked the idea
<gpiccoli>
heheh
<Xogium>
speaking of, I amused myself (or not), finally setting up 2FA and app password on gmail today. I received no less than 8 security alerts that someone knew my password and was doing stuff in my account. Yes, idiot, that would be me
<Xogium>
and google being like, app passwords are awesome, you enter them once and you can forget about them ! ... yeah ? What about when you gotta reinstall the app ?
<geertu>
Xogium: I switched to 2FA and app passwords years ago.
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<Xogium>
heh, I was just too lazy to do it. But I had to, given that on 30 may google will no longer allow to login with your account password
<geertu>
Xogium: I use the app password only for getmail (gmail backup)
<Xogium>
plus, up until last year or so, I couldn't even do 2FA, since I had no phone :D
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<ukleinek>
Xogium: I wonder how many Google users there are who don't have a phone and so have problems with 2FA
<Xogium>
honestly no idea
<gpiccoli>
ukleinek, probably 0 now that Xogium got a phone heh
<ukleinek>
I guess we will have a better picture after 30 May when people start complaining ...
<Xogium>
but I'd imagine quite a bunch, since in a lot of country when you create the account, it's not mendatory to put your phone number. Now in countries like canada and the US its enforced, you don't have the choice of just using an email address for recovery or such
<ukleinek>
There might also be some people who own a phone, but don't want to connect it to google
<Xogium>
yeah
<gpiccoli>
" who own a phone, but don't want to connect it to google" <- oh I agree, likely many! Android makes it almost mandatory though =/
<Xogium>
fun part is, even if you try to go on gmail in france or some such where adding your phone is still not mendatory, google knows you're not in france and forcefully redirects you to the canada instance
<Xogium>
basic geolocalisation at its most, but sooooo annoying
<marex>
what about mailbox org
<marex>
?
<geertu>
Xogium: Google uses some heuristics. After spending some days in FR, youtube started showing commercials in French.
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<ukleinek>
geertu: not using an ad-blocker? It's quite some time ago that I saw ads on youtube
<marex>
ukleinek: preparing for ER/KR ?
<ukleinek>
marex: No, I don't
<marex>
oh well
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* ukleinek
congratulates geertu for being 4th in the "Most active 5.18 devs (by changeset)"
<ukleinek>
statistics
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