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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Yeah, its still a major work in progress, but its promising!
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> and I thought Googulator was 🤯
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> I need to read up on GPU / DRM drivers as id like to help out, using mainline mesa on 6.1 would be perfect.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> I need to read up on GPU / DRM drivers as id like to help out more, using mainline mesa on 6.1 would be perfect.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Dont get me wrong, Googulator is also a legend here, both him and boogie know way more than me
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> I watched the whole XDC conference in the hopes of learning something by osmosis, but it's all way beyond my brain power
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Honestly im just here to learn dude, so many talented developers i can holy hope to learn more and better myself from
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Honestly im just here to learn dude, so many talented developers i can only hope to learn more and better myself from
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> True, some folks are just awesome 🫡
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> Awsome, no rush.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> I guess these last 2 PRs to `5.10-rkr6` were not included in your `rk-6.1-rkr1`: https://github.com/armbian/linux-rockchip/compare/03ef88fc...rk-5.10-rkr6.patch
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> Awesome, no rush.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> I guess these last 2 PRs to `5.10-rkr6` were not included in your `rk-6.1-rkr1`: https://github.com/armbian/linux-rockchip/compare/03ef88fc...rk-5.10-rkr6.patch
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Yeah I will cherry pick them.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Yeah I'm currently building `vendor` image using patching config to patch in the dts. But I'm getting errors since I'm also using `ROOTFS_TYPE=f2fs`, so I'll have to find out what the problem is until I can try the beautiful work from you all that is `vendor` kernel 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Yeah I'm currently building `vendor` image using patching config to patch in the dts. But I'm getting errors since I'm also using `ROOTFS_TYPE=f2fs`, so I'll have to find out what the problem is before I can try the beautiful work from you all that is `vendor` kernel 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> You can burn your own MAC onto the RTLs
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> But the PD issue is really annoying, it's the only board that /cannot/ work properly at 5V
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <microlinux> That's mindblowing. We will have the vpu blobs alongside true mesa. Insane
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> yuzu is dead, fuck nintendo
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Thats clever!
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Wonder if its possible to cool original case for orangepi5 like that?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> What about the magnet in the fan, wont that intefere with some electronics like that, since its so close to the PCB?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Wonder if its possible to cool original case for orangepi5, or any other case where the case is the heatsink, like that?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Now I cant stop thinking how to anyhow cool this with a fan
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> There is no fan inside the case?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> No
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Atm im thinking about sticking lots of small heatsinks on top of the case, turning it upside down and doing it the same with a noctua fan as in the picture
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> I cant come up with a better idea
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Any other mod would require too much effort for too little gain, since the whole case is made of aluminium and acts as a giant heatsink, so Im only thinking about repurposing it like that in the picture
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Its actually a genius idea if you think like that, how little effort needs to be done for little to no effort
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> https://a.aliexpress.com/_Evwhqd7 this one has exact dimensions and its also thick !
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> (if you dont care about the looks, like i dont, and only care about functionality)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> As im about to order it (thanks to @rpardini ) the only question remains, if its better to order a bigger heatsink so it covers whole fan (or even more) and not only the case of opi5. Going by the physics, the cooling should be better
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> As im about to order it (thanks to @rpardini who is the genius here!) the only question remains, if its better to order a bigger heatsink so it covers whole fan (or even more) and not only the case of opi5. Going by the physics, the cooling should be better
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> As im about to order it (thanks 🍻 to @rpardini who is the genius here!) the only question remains, if its better to order a bigger heatsink so it covers whole fan (or even more) and not only the case of opi5. Going by the physics, the cooling should be better
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Which board is using rtl8852bu?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <infiltrat8r> isn't this usb wifi
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Radxa's kernel added it. Maybe one of their wifi modules is it .
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> Indeed, you've a good writeup on how to write MAC addresses at https://github.com/edk2-porting/edk2-rk3588#networking-does-not-work -- thanks!
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> btw @mariob I'd like to do a new "round" of edk2-enabled images (this time with `6.1-rkr1` and jammy + KDE 6 Neon desktop to get ppl excited).
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> I wonder if you're planning on a 0.9.2 release, you've quite a few fixes on top of it already https://github.com/edk2-porting/edk2-rk3588/compare/v0.9.1...master ?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> (No rush at all, ofc).
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> @gospod13337 Just replace the thermal pad with a copper shim and you don't need extra cooling. The case is great.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> lol. If you wanna go with this, keep in mind 1) you'd need a raiser/spacer, I've too little clearance from the "floor", the bigger space you get the more air moves; 2) make _sure_ to use 5V PWM fans, using 12V fans (eg stolen from PC cases etc) on a 5V fan connector is not a good idea
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> https://youtu.be/zvN1U8Vu0co?t=136
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> It is good, but for any 247 load 80c is too much imo. I had carefully checked when applying pads, and had to use 1,5mm on SoC and 2mm on RAM, for both to have contact (so stock pads that it came with were already not enough)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Any nvme gets perfect heat treatment inside this thing 😂
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Thanks! I ordered 2x 150x69x36mm heatsinks per 1 orangepi5. So in the end it will be a giant 150x140mm heatsink block ontop of a 140mm fan. If that isnt effective (with no effort) I dont know what is 🍻
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Thanks! I ordered 2x 150x69x36mm heatsinks per 1 orangepi5. So in the end it will be a giant 150x140mm heatsink block ontop of a 140x140mm fan. If that isnt effective (with no effort) I dont know what is 🍻
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Thats why im using some ultra cheap KingSpec from aliexpress. If this method of cooling will effectively cool the case, I will then maybe put so much thermalpads ontop of nvme so that it will touch the other side of aluminium case (i dont want to do that now without new method because 80c will kill nvme?)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Anyway i will post results and photos in few weeks time
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Anyway i will post results and photos in few weeks time 🍻
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> thermal pads are bad, don't use them they isolate more than anything else.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> I will check those copper shims, but they need to be thick 😛
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> I had 78C max with copper shims vs 83 with themal pads. It's just bad to use than with a metal case.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> I just checked on aliexpress, copper shim is just plain layer of copper? You use thermal grease on top of it?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> I just checked on aliexpress, copper shim is just plain layer of copper? You use thermal paste on top of it?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> They can be bought in al sizes. I use them on most of my metal cases. Makes a world of difference. Overheating vs staying under 80 is a great improvement for a small change. Metal donducts better than a thermal pad, or you'd need to buy the fraphite pads..
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> Yes, thermal paste between every layer.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Understood, never did it like that, i will order it
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> They can be bought in al sizes. I use them on most of my metal cases. Makes a world of difference. Overheating vs staying under 80 is a great improvement for a small change. Metal donducts better than a thermal pad, or you'd need to buy the graphite pads..
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> With the Mixtiles and the Noctua fan.... I get 38.8°C soc temp and 32.9°C NVMe at idle, and never got soc above 60°C no matter how I stress it. Also: heat does not spread to NVMe, which stays at less than 35°C even when soc is around 58.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Would you use 0,5mm thermal pads between those giant heatsinks and case so they stick, thermal paste or anything else?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> I would not, thermal glue or double sided thermal tape is thinner. I hate thermal pads, they don't do what they're sold for. They are a blanket between the metals. You want metal on metal. Or as close as possible.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Thanks !
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> OPi5 original case is fanless too? That's great! I love 0dB.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Didn't have any problems so far with the Nanopi fanless cases to be honest.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Do you plan to run consistent high intensity workloads?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Yes its fanless and made of aluminium. Consistent workloads maybe yes, anyway its better imo if temps are lower then 80c even if not consistent and only for few hours
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Its a beast SBC, to not have an option to atleast use it consistently is a waste. And also having that small and noisy fan is wrong. 140mm noctua as in the picture above and two giant heatsinks and everything we wrote should be enough and silent
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> I'd worry about the copper pads shorting something on the board 😅
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Same as with liquid metal or conductive thermal paste.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> 🍻 good thinking
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Sounds good
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Now im worried and scared
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Im using these https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQBY7vr they have the most 24w/mk as far as I can see. Will test everything like that then and if it will be shit, i will tweak with copper shims 🍻
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <gospod13337> Did you cover all 3 chips? What thicknesses?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> I don't know about Rockchip, but with current Intel and AMD CPUs, you can run them hot no problem. They will thermal throttle to keep them in their safe temperature range.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Meaning if your cooling is sufficient to not have the CPU thermal throttle, it's good enough and doesn't matter if it's running 65 or 80 degrees. So I personally don't worry too much about that 😄 The CPUs can handle it
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> You cant short it when it's presure mounted, can't move. Just don't use too much thermal paste. Not much is needed. It is a bit messy when havin to open it but the improvements are worth it for me. Never had an issue. Done it with tons of boards. I love silent computing and use no fans on my devices but metal cases. NVMe doesn't overheat, ram chips never get too hot and they migh <clipped message>
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> t get hotter by putting thermal pads on them and putting the heat of the soc into it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> And raise it from the ground with big rubber feet o the downside can ratiate. Then you shouldn't need a fan even when it's hot. And blowing a fn onto he case would immediatly improve temps. I have big fans on usb that I put boards on when they overhet. For an N100 its needed. But wouldn't use it for 24/7 task.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> And raise it from the ground with big rubber feet o the downside can radiate. Then you shouldn't need a fan even when it's hot. And blowing a fn onto he case would immediatly improve temps. I have big fans on usb that I put boards on when they overhet. For an N100 its needed. But wouldn't use it for 24/7 task.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <shivansps> Problem solved on the OPI3B + SATA adapter.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <shivansps> they really need to learn how to place an m.2 slot
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <shivansps> they really need to learn how to place a m.2 slot
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> this is so cursed... I love your solution haha
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Those changes are mostly ACPI-related, so not too interesting for Linux usage with DTB.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> I do plan to make a new release soon, but no ETA yet.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <sirmorphic> Is there an armbian orange 5 plus image cli only?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Check <armbian.com/orangepi-5>
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Check <https://armbian.com/orangepi-5>