2022-03-20 23:34
cr1901 changed the topic of ##yamahasynths to: Channel dedicated to questions and discussion of Yamaha FM Synthesizer internals and corresponding REing. Discussion of synthesis methods similar to the Yamaha line of chips, Sound Blasters + clones, PCM chips like RF5C68, CD/floppy disk theory of operation, and the 68k CPU are also on-topic. Channel logs:
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gewt >
what machine?
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andlabs >
Sun SPARC T3-1
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andlabs >
the cheapest Solaris 11-compatible sparc64 machine i could get
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andlabs >
the wings also aren't solely rack ears either; they have indicator LEDs
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andlabs >
but yeah these final-gen sparc64 machiens fetch a lot of money for some reason
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qu1j0t3 >
probably the same reason certain Alphas did
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qu1j0t3 >
still commercially used
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qu1j0t3 >
even vax-11 4000/90's were a premium recently
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qu1j0t3 >
idk if that's still true
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andlabs >
what form factor ist hat
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andlabs >
I managed to get a microvax 3100 for $150 at some point
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andlabs >
no idea on the condition though; still in the box
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andlabs >
*still in the seller's box
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andlabs >
if it's gutted to some extent then figuring out what should go in it will be fun...
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andlabs >
I also have a mouse but no keyboard or monitor connection
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andlabs >
I wonder if the signals are OSSC-compatible
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qu1j0t3 >
MV 3100 is a nice machine.
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qu1j0t3 >
andlabs: If you want to ask about the monitor signal on those, join #bolix
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andlabs >
and I apparently never saved the listing details
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qu1j0t3 >
andlabs: I own a bunch of them, but i have the actual monitors
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qu1j0t3 >
but i think others will know the specs
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andlabs >
well I'm not in any position to try it out yet
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andlabs >
I do want to make openvms libui a thing
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qu1j0t3 >
ok keep a note of that channel, lots of VAX experts in there
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qu1j0t3 >
I only ran ULTRIX on mine
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qu1j0t3 >
yeah gewt among them :)
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andlabs >
I have a feeling I'm not going to be able to run Unix 10th Edition
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andlabs >
that'd be the pipe dream for me
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qu1j0t3 >
but DECwindows, the whole shebang
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qu1j0t3 >
andlabs: no, just ULTRIX, a bsd-ish :)
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andlabs >
not like that's fully preserved anyway :(
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qu1j0t3 >
and netbsd etc if it ever ran there (idk)
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andlabs >
I'm surprised the unix tree has
*some of* it
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andlabs >
and of course there are the manuals that got properly published for some reason
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gewt >
did 10thed ever run on VAX?
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gewt >
i thought that was 3b2
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gewt >
if i remembered where i put copy of the source tree i'd go check
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andlabs >
I thought it
*only* ran on vax
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gewt >
which vax, though
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andlabs >
some people on 9fans said they explicitly ran the C interprter on their MiniVAX
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qu1j0t3 >
...minivax?
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andlabs >
(take a shot for every cursed word in the above line)
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andlabs >
it was probably microvax IDK
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gewt >
you're right. it's VAX
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gewt >
# 855bb-ce (88a79317x)
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gewt >
so a UNIBUS vax
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gewt >
oh and VAXBI VAXen?
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qu1j0t3 >
uhh that'd include 780 right
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andlabs >
too many machines x.x
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andlabs >
but yes there was a C interpreter
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andlabs >
I don't think that's in the unix tree alas
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andlabs >
the thing I'm most intrested in are all the later troff adjacent tools
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andlabs >
the original authors don't have those anymore
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andlabs >
things like ideal(1)
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andlabs >
no PWB predates this
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gewt >
```uvqbus 0 voff 0x200``` and...a quniverter???
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qu1j0t3 >
andlabs: what's ideal?
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qu1j0t3 >
gewt: mad science
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andlabs >
a drawing package that used linear systems of equations to define points
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gewt >
the documentation in these config files is abysmal
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andlabs >
I have no idea what the other words mean
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qu1j0t3 >
andlabs: like METAFONT did
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andlabs >
yes, but I think it predated metafont
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qu1j0t3 >
did you find papers and stuff?
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qu1j0t3 >
toss a couple of links if it's convenient (no rush... i'm going to bed soon)
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andlabs >
eventually I found some archive from an early third-party sysIII distro
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andlabs >
uhh if you can find the old Bell Labs archives it's "Computing Science Technical Report #103"
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andlabs >
that started going away before I learned about wget :(
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andlabs >
if I remembered the URLs we could at least try to archive.org it
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andlabs >
but I don't
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andlabs >
the filename would be 103.ps.gz
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andlabs >
usually changing the domain to 9p.io works
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andlabs >
they have the best archive I know about
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qu1j0t3 >
nice work! ;-)
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qu1j0t3 >
the real OG is foo.ps.Z
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man I could really use a c interpreter right now...
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tunixman >
I think someone found a way to do it in jupyter notebooks...
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NiGHTS >
GitHub - jupyter-xeus/xeus-cling: Jupyter kernel for the C++ programming language
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qu1j0t3 >
@ tunixman
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tunixman >
hahah yeah...
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