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do numbers behave like this ...
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there are some ways to do ...
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pandabot: rb .....................1
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pandabot: rb .....................1
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pandabot: rb .....................1
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pandabot: rb .....................1
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we have achieved ... here
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depesz >
are there any standards on how to write comments in ruby programs so that it will be better readable for some doc-reading tools?
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depesz: rdoc?
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adam12: where can I read about it?
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I wonder if there'd be any interest in the ability to search across
_all_ code ever published in Rubygems.
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Anyone using Turbo in combination with jquery here?
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some14u: I'm not, but I use a similar pairing. Did you have a question?
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Well, I have this jquery $(".some-a-link").on("click").. handler that hides and shows my menu bar. Now when I add Turbo to my page this link gets broken once Turbo starts kicking in (e.g. after the first visit to another page).
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1. that's dynamic content, you need to attach the click listener to the body
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2. better to use vanilla js
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3. it's document.addEventListener('click', e => {if (e.target.classList.contains('some-a-link') do_the_thing();});
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some14u >
thank you. I am going to try out option 1 first. For completeness: even adding data-turbo="false" on this a link does not work.
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some14u >
alright thanks a lot. Have been trying out different things for days
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adam12 >
I think there's an another jQuery syntax you can use too, where you setup the listener on document and add the selector.
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D_A_N >
when you attach event listener to element that get destroyed without the script being reran, the listener gets deleted along with it
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adam12 >
$(document).on('click', '.some-a-link', function() {})
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adam12: there is but i've not used that library in years, i'm p sure it's something like $('body .some-a-link').on('click', do_the_thing());
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but i would think turbo js event destroys the body so you might want to attach the listener even higher up like on the document itself
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some14u >
Alrighty. this is great. Would you guys advise me to drop jquery as much as possible? I am mainly using it for bootstrap's 'toast' functionality
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i would drop jquey and bootstrap
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D_A_N >
go with vanilla js and tailwind
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D_A_N >
i've not used jquery for a long time and it makes me cringe when i look at it lol
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some14u >
haha okay ;D
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some14u >
hmm, dropping bootstrap will be hard. All the styling is done with it. Also I believe tailwind does not provide actual components ui like bootstrap does.
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some14u >
i'd rather not clutter up my html with a bunch of tailwind classes. Wanna keep it readable
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D_A_N >
bootstrap is okay but personally i've grown to not like it
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some14u: Most of jQuery has been unnecessary for a very long time.
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it's like training wheels for javascript
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some14u >
wow adam, that's quite a performance improvement.
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I guess jquery's syntax is a bit nicer than the native listener you showed in step 3 D_A_N but the downside is performance
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for simple things it can refactor your code to be less but but getting into the nitty gritty you start to see how it just gets in the way
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One of the reasons I'd advocate for a solution like D_A_N proposed (for new code, anyways) is the fact that browser API's have staying power.
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yes, that too
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So the knowledge gained by using them is usually more long lasting than the framework de-jour.
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I wouldn't go re-write old code unless absolutely necessary tho. Just add a shim where necessary and go on with your life. I think there's some smaller jQuery-like APIs that could stand-in, if it ever became a concern.
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some14u >
okay, you have me convinced to rewrite this piece of jquery. I had a hard time picking up the code base I am working on because of all the exotic choices that were made. It's indeed better to work against wide conventions.
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some14u: It's the unfortunate reality of the web.
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some14u: I have some projects still using KnockoutJS :P
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Lately I just use Unpoly and maybe a few web components. And I've stopped using Tailwind nearly everywhere too...
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i'd think js is probably one of the more quickly changing paradigms too being how high level it is
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haha adam, I am on the same boat as you. Had to 'knock out' a lot of knockout + was really excited about Tailwind too but it really clutters up the html which makes it unworkable in the end. Dropped it as well.
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some14u: This is the other project I mentioned, Unpoly. Just to derail you further :P
https://unpoly.com
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some14u >
Am even questioning my use of Turbo... Alright going to take a look Unpoly haha
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i could see not liking tailwind but i think it's good because any css rules you can see right on the element, no need to search through a separate style sheet
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though i guess you could mitigate that if you have a really good canonical naming convention for ur classes
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it looks a bit like htmx which seems like the perfect balance between sanity and usefulness
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D_A_N, yes one can grok what's going on with the sytling by looking at the html. That's what I like about it too.
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some14u: Yes! Super similar to htmx (and it's predecessor, Intercooler)
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A long time ago I used Intercooler, and it was good, but I had much more success with Unpoly. So I've used Unpoly ever since.
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For that, I might just use htmx...
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Or nothing. See IntersectionObserver and fetch.
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thanks. Let's keep it as simple as possible for maintainability in the future.
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IntersectionObserver + fetch might only be a dozen lines. Could be worth exploring.
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D_A_N: Have you looked at Openprops at all?
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good read and so true adam
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adam12: i've not, i just google it though, looks neat
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