#ruby on 2022-07-04 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-04-12 14:08 jhass[m] changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules: https://ruby-community.com | Ruby 3.1.2, 3.0.4, 2.7.6: https://www.ruby-lang.org | Paste 4+ lines to: https://gist.github.com | Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ

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02:46 <ox1eef_> i get the impression it is something you intentionally can't do.

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02:46 <ox1eef_> probably you could implement bind in C to not care about receiver, and pray there's no segfaults :)

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02:52 <ox1eef_> it seems like opening a can of worms though - because assuming you could bind any receiver, you then have to worry if the method depends on methods in its ancestry tree or not.

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07:08 <ox1eef_> weaksauce: i apologize for my harsh tone a few days ago.

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16:19 <axisys> whats the difference between %w(a b) vs %w[a b] ?

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16:36 <adam12> axisys: None. You can use almost any delimiter for % sigils.

16:38 <adam12> axisys: ie. %w!foo bar baz! is totally valid.

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17:19 <mooff> what about %w😻foo bar😻 ?

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17:27 <ccooke> ... "Invalid byte sequence in UTF-8". Which isn't a good error message, *And* I can't tell if I'm disappointed or relieved that it doesn't work

17:29 <adam12> Hehe

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17:30 <ccooke> Also, this looks... a bit buggy, to be honest: https://gist.github.com/ccooke/aa4191c66fa982f75ee8cabab3cda5ca

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18:59 <mooff> :: "%w😻".then { [_1.valid_encoding?, *_1.chars] }

18:59 <ruby-eval> => [true, "%", "w", "😻"]

19:00 <mooff> :: module 🙀 class 😻 end end

19:00 <ruby-eval> ERROR: (eval):1: class/module name must be CONSTANT

19:00 <ruby-eval> module 🙀 class 😻 end end

19:00 <ruby-eval> ^~~~

19:00 <ruby-eval> module 🙀 class 😻 end end

19:00 <ruby-eval> (eval):1: class/module name must be CONSTANT

19:00 <ruby-eval> ^~~~

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19:01 <mooff> doh, should have used the uppercase "🙀" 🤓

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19:10 <spawnmc> I was hoping this would work, it doesn't: https://gist.github.com/inascime/67cbf3f9cb0feca50d400cc329a9a9bb

19:10 <spawnmc> is there a simple way to achieve this?

19:13 <adam12> spawnmc: Generally you don't want to use `for`.

19:13 <adam12> spawnmc: Ruby has powerful enumerables, so you'd use an Array and then enumerate on that. [a, b, c, d].each do |i|

19:14 <adam12> Technically you can get `for` to work, but I wouldn't. `for i in [a, b, c, d]`

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19:15 <spawnmc> hmm ok, i just started learning Ruby so i didn't get to arrays yet, just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if it sticks

19:15 <spawnmc> thanks

19:17 <adam12> spawnmc: No problem.

19:24 <legit> I think part of enjoying Ruby is accepting its ways and not forcing it to behave like Python, for example

19:24 <legit> Not that there's anything wrong with python

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19:32 <spawnmc> haha, I was just trying to see if it would behave similar to it. Ruby does have quite a few interesting quirks I've came across so far

19:33 <weaksauce> ox1eef harsh tone regarding what?

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20:16 <spawnmc> what are some major differences from like 2.33 ruby to latest ruby?

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20:21 <adam12> spawnmc: Fibers received a lot of enhancements. There was many ongoing changes to the garbage collector.

20:21 <adam12> If you're talking about syntax, the ruby changes website is helpful. https://rubyreferences.github.io/rubychanges/

20:22 <adam12> Keyword arg separation was big.

20:23 <spawnmc> I'm not sure I understand what Keyword arg separation is yet but I'll keep that in mind thanks

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20:30 <weaksauce> spawnmc https://dev.to/donaldong/ruby-keyword-arguments-4fl6

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20:43 <ox1eef> weaksauce: regarding .split of all things.

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20:46 <weaksauce> ox1eef no worries

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22:44 <Dean> hi

22:44 <michigan> Hi!

22:44 <Dean> how are you michigan

22:44 <michigan> Anybody know why `Net::FTP.new("ftp.openbsd.org")` fails?

22:45 <michigan> Dean: Can't complain, yourself?

22:45 <Dean> doing good thanks michigan

22:45 <michigan> Good!

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22:47 <michigan> I'm trying to log onto https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/ and get the list of directories there.

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22:54 <constxd> michigan: is that actually an ftp server?

22:55 <michigan> constxd: Good question!

22:56 <constxd> i don't see it on the list of ftp mirrors

22:56 <constxd> does it still fail if you use ftp.usa.openbsd.org

22:56 <michigan> Thanks constxd :)

22:57 <constxd> did that work? i was just guessing

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22:58 <michigan> Yep :)

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23:20 <Guest38> Yo

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