06:07 <aw-> razzy: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/N%27th#PicoLisp

06:07 <aw-> and https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Natural_sorting

06:07 <aw-> not sure if that's what you want

06:07 <aw-> perhaps you should bookmark this: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:PicoLisp

06:08 <aw-> great reference thanks to Regenaxer and tankf33der and other pil devs

06:26 <Regenaxer> Good morning all!

06:26 <Regenaxer> 'sqrt' gives the square root of a number

06:26 <Regenaxer> and we have factoring into primes: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Prime_decomposition#PicoLisp

06:36 <Regenaxer> Erst danach können wir den Buchhaltugs-Exportd angehen

06:36 <Regenaxer> oops, sorry!

08:47 <Hunar> Hello :)     Regenaxer I want to add a Kurdish to the localizations of PilBox, what language is a good template that has all the words? Do you have a template file that is just English? like ("Yes" "Yes") because that is super easy to work with.  In the list of languages it should display     Kurdish (Central) with file name ckb

08:47 <Hunar> because we have to main dialects, the other one is    Kurdish (Northern)  with file name ku   I'm not good at this dialect so i'll leave it

08:48 <Regenaxer> Hi Hunar! We are in PilCon :)

08:49 <Hunar> Oh, I just noticed the date:/   Unfortunately I'm at work .. have a nice meeting:)

10:48 <Regenaxer> OK, we are done

10:49 <Regenaxer> Unfortunately, I'm busy. But to make a new language, pil21/loc/ neeeds to be added to

10:49 <Regenaxer> and then perhaps in the demo app

10:49 <Regenaxer> app/loc/

11:27 <Hunar> No problem :) answer whenever you are ready..        So If I for example use the French language files   loc/FR.l and loc/fr     then translate texts and rename files, would that be enough? because I don't see the word Française in either of the files I mentioned, while Its visible in the language selection of PilBox. so there must be

11:27 <Hunar> other files too right?

11:30 <Regenaxer> yes,  loc/FR.l and loc/fr  are fine

11:30 <Regenaxer> An example how they are referred to is also in app/

11:31 <Regenaxer> The global *Locales in app/main.l

11:32 <Regenaxer> used in app/gui.l

11:35 <Hunar> Ah I see :)   there isn't much to translate.. I'll send it to you tonight

11:35 <Regenaxer> Great! :)

11:35 <Regenaxer> Also for app/ ?

11:36 <Regenaxer> Then we can put it on https://picolisp.com/app

11:52 <Hunar> Sorry I didn't fully understand app/   do you mean this line      ("کوردیی ناوەندی" "CKB" . "ckb")    or there is another file to translate

12:03 <Regenaxer> yes, this line would be added to *Locales in app/main.l

12:04 <Regenaxer> To translate is loc/ckb app/loc/ckb and loc/CKB.l

12:04 <Regenaxer> s/translate/create

12:04 <Hunar> Ah, Now I understand all of it :)

12:04 <Regenaxer> :)

12:06 <Hunar> The language is rightToLeft, but I think that's a css issue

12:06 <Regenaxer> Oh, not sure

12:06 <Regenaxer> Thats an interesting new case

12:07 <Hunar> Yeah :)

12:19 <Hunar> Adding    html { direction: rtl; }  to lib.css is doing most of the job for me :)    I'm not sure if that covers all the cases, I don't have a lot of experience with html

12:20 <Regenaxer> What happens if the CSS is not set?

12:20 <Regenaxer> I mean, this mechanism is not there

12:21 <Hunar> The texts themselves don't have any problem with RTL text :)

12:21 <Regenaxer> They are displayed correctly?

12:21 <Hunar> Yes :)

12:21 <Regenaxer> coil

12:22 <Regenaxer> cool

12:22 <Hunar> That's another advantage of using a web browser for display.. racket didn't support rtl text

12:23 <Regenaxer> But with some CSS change it is better?

12:25 <Hunar> CSS fixes the layout,   so if I made a from by defining label then textField   labels is on left and textFiled is on right, and both of them are on the left side of the screen ..  with html { direction: rtl; }   all of it is flipped to the right side, along with the order

12:25 <Regenaxer> The +Style class might fix that

12:25 <Regenaxer> looking at the locale

12:26 <Hunar> Can we use the global  html { direction: rtl; }    style based on the language selected and runtime?

12:27 <Hunar> at runtime*

12:27 <Regenaxer> Could be coded into 'menu' I think

12:27 <Regenaxer> app/gui.l

12:31 <Hunar> I'll go home and be back when I finish the translation :)

16:02 <Hunar> What does *NatTrunkPrf  stand for?

16:03 <Regenaxer> I think "national trunk number prefix"

16:04 <Regenaxer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_prefix

16:04 <Hunar> Ah

17:52 <Hunar> Done :),  here are the files:   app/loc/ckb  http://ix.io/3LMR    pil21/loc/CKB.l  http://ix.io/3LN3     pil21/loc/ckb  http://ix.io/3LN2  I added afew lines for pilbox at the bottom, you may or may not want to delete it

17:52 <Hunar> ("کوردیی ناوەندی" "CKB" "ckb")

17:54 <Regenaxer> Cool, I try

17:58 <Regenaxer> Interesting! You added PilBox

17:59 <Hunar> Yes :) I was ugly when a button was English and another was not

17:59 <Hunar> It was*

18:03 <Regenaxer> true, but the translations are not used anywhere

18:03 <Regenaxer> In assets/run/App.l there are no commas before these strings

18:04 <Regenaxer> Technical terms

18:04 <Regenaxer> like the built-in error messages too

18:05 <Regenaxer> Is it OK if I remove these translations from pil21/loc/ckb ?

22:29 <razzy> I have function (* A B) returns 999. I want to increase A and B roughly same to have returned 1500. It is kind of difference backpropagation on multiplication. I only have very ugly expensive solutions so far.