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<d_bot_> <mbacarella> what's the IRC getaway? would be cool if it saw code blocks and auto-pastebinned them
<d_bot_> <mimoo> not sure, but this always worked in CI and today we had issues for a few hours
<d_bot_> <mimoo> maybe a dependency of ocaml
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<d_bot_> <kodwx> @mimoo can you try it again
<d_bot_> <kodwx> I think it has been resolved now
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<d_bot_> <orbitz> The people you see with BOT next to their name are actually on IRC
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<d_bot_> <darrenldl> i think its matterbridge?
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<d_bot_> <mbacarella> I meant what is the IRC gateway itself implemented in and could it be fixed to do the right thing automatically (auto-pastebinning code blocks) instead of forever regularly telling people new to this channel to do it
<d_bot_> <Et7f3 (@me on reply)> It is opensource: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
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<olle> Oh, there's a functional programming subreddit. Noice.
* qwr sees d_bot_ as name for people who are _not_ on irc ;)
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<sleepydog> I'm not a bot, you're a bot!
<d_bot_> <mbacarella> is this your fork of ocaml-grpc by chance? we have a grpc-async implementation to contribute
<d_bot_> <quernd> It's my company's. Brilliant, any contributions welcome 🙂
<d_bot_> <mbacarella> alrighty i'll see about getting a PR prepared
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<d_bot_> <mbacarella> as an aside, for lulz, the grpc service we were hitting would return protocol error 0x1 if we forgot to provide content-type: application/grpc, or if we didn't provide it *last* in the list of headers
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> That last requirement is a bit disconcerting.
<d_bot_> <quernd> That doesn't sound quite up to spec 😄
<d_bot_> <quernd> Although the spec is very clear about headers, I've run into similar problems, and all you get is 0x1...
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<d_bot_> <idnes> some inspirations about what to do with ocaml?
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<d_bot_> <mbacarella> my conclusion is that gprc is a technology to frustrate people that aren't using google's official tech stack, clearly
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<sleepydog> most GCP APIs still have an http/json API
<sleepydog> there are a few grpc only ones. cloud profiler and bigtable come to mind
<d_bot_> <Anurag> That is good to know. Thanks!
<companion_cube> it's a pity they didn't start with the equivalent of twirp
<companion_cube> something that would work everywhere without hassle
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<d_bot_> <kodwx> Here's an opam package I am developing
<d_bot_> <kodwx> I know a lot of work needs to be done especially to fulfill the *nicely documented* claim.
<d_bot_> <kodwx> And there are a lot of useful stuff not present in the stdlib I am planning to add.
<d_bot_> <kodwx>
<d_bot_> <kodwx> So, should I keep working on it?
<d_bot_> <kodwx> Or it won't be of any use to anyone?
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<d_bot_> <Sam> i hate ocaml just wanted to state that
<d_bot_> <NULL> What should we make of this statement ? Infer that you have bad tastes in programming languages ?
<d_bot_> <eiya.ml> my man chose to wake up annoying today
<d_bot_> <Sam> makes one comment = man is annoying
<d_bot_> <Sam> typical ocaml user
<companion_cube> well hello to you too
<companion_cube> are you forced to use OCaml at school?
<d_bot_> <Sam> yes
<d_bot_> <Et7f3 (@me on reply)> I were forced too and hated before
<d_bot_> <Sam> i can barely find resources online thats my main problem
<d_bot_> <Et7f3 (@me on reply)> Let me show you the blog post that made me flip my feeling https://drup.github.io/2016/08/02/difflists/
<d_bot_> <Et7f3 (@me on reply)> We have #beginners and #débutants for helping. What do you want to use ? tooling ? code ?
<d_bot_> <Sam> I might check that out later when I need motivation thanks
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<d_bot_> <VPhantom> It could help to summarize what the library adds vs `Stdlib`.
<companion_cube> :D
<companion_cube> poor Drup and his nice blogpost
<companion_cube> for people who like to hurt their brains
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<d_bot_> <kodwx> yep that would be done through my website
<d_bot_> <kodwx> thanks!
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<companion_cube> @VPhantom turns out I need protobuf for something unrelated right now :D
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> Unrelated to protobuf itself?
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> Thanks for the improvements btw; I can't wait to dive into it.
<companion_cube> I'm trying to make a client library for opentelemetry
<companion_cube> turns out it's all protobuf
<d_bot_> <mbacarella> :crying guy with crewcut meme:
<Corbin> And they wonder why plaintext Prometheus is so popular among cloud engineers in comparison. Maybe if they rename OpenTelemetry again, it'll finally be attractive?
<companion_cube> I mean, protobuf isn't great, but it seems reasonable for this use case?
<d_bot_> <Anurag> protobuf itself seems fine for this use case. Its nice to see they have http as an option for opentelemetry now. Last time I looked at it I mistakenly thought opentelemetry only speaks grpc, and ended up focusing efforts on writing a library that specifically works with the elastic observability offering's wire protocol.
<companion_cube> yeah it's http compatible now
<companion_cube> so I'm going to do that :D
<d_bot_> <Anurag> 📈 Nice!
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> Yeah as much as I like Protobuf for its IDL I don't particularly like gRPC and I don't plan to use it for my internal RPC plans.
<d_bot_> <wokalski> companion_cube: are you going to open source it?
<companion_cube> hopefully
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<d_bot_> <mbacarella> made an issue at least https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/issues/1766
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<d_bot_> <RegularSpatula> Do you have a link? I didn’t see one on GitHub
<d_bot_> <RegularSpatula> I would be interested in reading about your reasons for making another stdlib replacement. Eg the goals, what you found lacking in the other ones, that sort of thing
<companion_cube> what stdlib? :p
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> 😛
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> @companion_cube She is dead to you, isn't she? 😕
<d_bot_> <RegularSpatula> I hear that https://ocaml.org/api/Stdlib.html is just an alternative interface to Containers …
<d_bot_> <VPhantom> Wait… OH!
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<d_bot_> <companion_cube> 😂
<d_bot_> <companion_cube> nah I'm just curious
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