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< jonpsy[m]> say4n: I might have some questions on reinforcement learning, could you clear them up?
< jonpsy[m]> (depending on if you're still on vaca ;) )
<jonpsy[m]> say4n: I might have some questions on reinforcement learning, could you clear them up?
<jonpsy[m]> (depending on if you're still on vaca ;) )
< say4n[m]> sure, I returned yesterday
<say4n[m]> sure, I returned yesterday
< jonpsy[m]> so, the bellman equation gives the optimal Value and action value eq right?
<jonpsy[m]> so, the bellman equation gives the optimal Value and action value eq right?
< say4n[m]> yes
< jonpsy[m]> in the bellman equation
< jonpsy[m]> for action value, do we need transition probability?
<say4n[m]> yes
<jonpsy[m]> in the bellman equation
<jonpsy[m]> for action value, do we need transition probability?
< say4n[m]> <jonpsy[m] "for action value, do we need tra"> You need P(s’|s,a)
< jonpsy[m]> yeap
< jonpsy[m]> but in many algos i havent seen it
< jonpsy[m]> the P(S'|S,A) term
<say4n[m]> <jonpsy[m] "for action value, do we need tra"> You need P(s’|s,a)
<jonpsy[m]> yeap
<jonpsy[m]> but in many algos i havent seen it
<jonpsy[m]> the P(S'|S,A) term
< say4n[m]> Which ones?
<say4n[m]> Which ones?
< jonpsy[m]> like q learning for ex
<jonpsy[m]> like q learning for ex
< say4n[m]> Ah so that is a TD method
<say4n[m]> Ah so that is a TD method
< jonpsy[m]> "needs to know the model", whats the model here? The transition probability?
<jonpsy[m]> "needs to know the model", whats the model here? The transition probability?
< say4n[m]> Erm sort of
< say4n[m]> Wait let me look for a better explanation
<say4n[m]> Erm sort of
<say4n[m]> Wait let me look for a better explanation
< jonpsy[m]> reinforcement learning looks cool but the maths is not so inviting :D
<jonpsy[m]> reinforcement learning looks cool but the maths is not so inviting :D
< say4n[m]> :)
<say4n[m]> :)
< shrit[m]> jonpsy: Yes the models are the transition probability
< shrit[m]> if it is a model free then there is no probabilities
<shrit[m]> jonpsy: Yes the models are the transition probability
<shrit[m]> if it is a model free then there is no probabilities
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< say4n[m]> Just came across this easter egg in the implementation of the man command — https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/405874
<say4n[m]> Just came across this easter egg in the implementation of the man command — https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/405874
< jonpsy[m]> > Just came across this easter egg in the implementation of the man command — https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/405874
< jonpsy[m]> * > Just came across this easter egg in the implementation of the man command — https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/405874
< jonpsy[m]> The Linux community is just a bunch of absolute madlads.
<jonpsy[m]> > Just came across this easter egg in the implementation of the man command — https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/405874
<jonpsy[m]> * > Just came across this easter egg in the implementation of the man command — https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/405874
<jonpsy[m]> The Linux community is just a bunch of absolute madlads.
< jonpsy[m]> zoq say4n jjb I'll be off from tommorow - 2nd august, participating in a hackathon
<jonpsy[m]> zoq say4n jjb I'll be off from tommorow - 2nd august, participating in a hackathon
< say4n[m]> All the best!
<say4n[m]> All the best!
< rcurtin[m]> jonpsy: good luck! sounds like fun :)
<rcurtin[m]> jonpsy: good luck! sounds like fun :)
<jjb[m]> Have fun! Try to network at the event if possible.
< jjb[m]> Have fun! Try to network at the event if possible.
< zoq[m]> Yep, have fun, do you already know what the topic is?
<zoq[m]> Yep, have fun, do you already know what the topic is?
< jonpsy[m]> It's going to be on ML, but the specific topic would be revealed when the competition begins
<jonpsy[m]> It's going to be on ML, but the specific topic would be revealed when the competition begins
< jonpsy[m]> > zoq say4n jjb I'll be off from tommorow - 2nd august, participating in a hackathon
< jonpsy[m]> so I wont be able to attend Monday's meet. Shall we shift it to Tuesday same time? There wont be much progress, but we can have a fun talk :)
<jonpsy[m]> > zoq say4n jjb I'll be off from tommorow - 2nd august, participating in a hackathon
<jonpsy[m]> so I wont be able to attend Monday's meet. Shall we shift it to Tuesday same time? There wont be much progress, but we can have a fun talk :)
< zoq[m]> > <@say4n:matrix.org> Sure, I am okay with it.
< zoq[m]> >
< zoq[m]> > Let’s wait for the others to respond. :)
< zoq[m]> Tuesday does not work for me, but you could have a meeting without me.
<zoq[m]> > <@say4n:matrix.org> Sure, I am okay with it.
<zoq[m]> >
<zoq[m]> > Let’s wait for the others to respond. :)
<zoq[m]> Tuesday does not work for me, but you could have a meeting without me.
< jonpsy[m]> that's totally fine, when you'd be free?
<jonpsy[m]> that's totally fine, when you'd be free?
< heisenbuugGopiMT> @shrit:matrix.org Hey, so we can't remove `boost::trim` directly. If you goto [here](https://github.com/mlpack/mlpack/blob/2f133a1718a40debd13809cb9989c8dff75c4554/src/mlpack/tests/load_save_test.cpp#L1485) you can see that each entry has space after the delimiter, and if we remove `boost::trim` these cases are failing. I am not sure why these were not failing till now, but now they are, and when I tried to load the same without the
< heisenbuugGopiMT> spaces, its working...
< heisenbuugGopiMT> So, I am implementing `trim` function myself.
<heisenbuugGopiMT> @shrit:matrix.org Hey, so we can't remove `boost::trim` directly. If you goto [here](https://github.com/mlpack/mlpack/blob/2f133a1718a40debd13809cb9989c8dff75c4554/src/mlpack/tests/load_save_test.cpp#L1485) you can see that each entry has space after the delimiter, and if we remove `boost::trim` these cases are failing. I am not sure why these were not failing till now, but now they are, and when I tried to load the same without the
<heisenbuugGopiMT> spaces, its working...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> So, I am implementing `trim` function myself.
< shrit[m]> Perfect, now we can understand why we have `boost::trim`, it is used in order to remove the trailing whitespaces before the word or the sentences. 👍️
<shrit[m]> Perfect, now we can understand why we have `boost::trim`, it is used in order to remove the trailing whitespaces before the word or the sentences. 👍️
< shrit[m]> You, we only need a simple implementation of a trimming function,
< shrit[m]> * You, we only need a simple implementation of a trimming function, nothing as complex as boost
<shrit[m]> You, we only need a simple implementation of a trimming function,
<shrit[m]> * You, we only need a simple implementation of a trimming function, nothing as complex as boost
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Yea, boost's implementation is way complex than I was expecting...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Yea, boost's implementation is way complex than I was expecting...
< heisenbuugGopiMT> We can use `str.erase(...)`
<heisenbuugGopiMT> We can use `str.erase(...)`
< shrit[m]> Maybe, you might have several whitespaces at the start and the end of the word, you need to detect them and remove them directly in one loop to reduce the cost
<shrit[m]> Maybe, you might have several whitespaces at the start and the end of the word, you need to detect them and remove them directly in one loop to reduce the cost
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Yea, so basically we can have a `ltrim` and a `rtrim` and then call both on the token...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Yea, so basically we can have a `ltrim` and a `rtrim` and then call both on the token...
< heisenbuugGopiMT> `ltrim` for left side trimming and `rtrim` for right side trimming.
<heisenbuugGopiMT> `ltrim` for left side trimming and `rtrim` for right side trimming.
< shrit[m]> Yes, but we need to find a way to do both of them in one loop, instead of having two functions with two loops
< heisenbuugGopiMT> I am working on an implementation, give me 5 mins, I will post it here...
<shrit[m]> Yes, but we need to find a way to do both of them in one loop, instead of having two functions with two loops
<heisenbuugGopiMT> I am working on an implementation, give me 5 mins, I will post it here...
< shrit[m]> No worries, take your time, The main issue in the current implementation (I think) the trim loop is called whether if we have spaces or not,
<shrit[m]> No worries, take your time, The main issue in the current implementation (I think) the trim loop is called whether if we have spaces or not,
< shrit[m]> This can increase drastically the required time to parse the data.
<shrit[m]> This can increase drastically the required time to parse the data.
< shrit[m]> It might be a good idea to try to detect if there are any trailing spaces, and remove them immediately.
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Yea, we are trimming each and every token that we are passing to `MapString()`
<shrit[m]> It might be a good idea to try to detect if there are any trailing spaces, and remove them immediately.
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Yea, we are trimming each and every token that we are passing to `MapString()`
< shrit[m]> Yes, but we are entering the loop in all cases, I have a reserve on this method, I am not sure if we really need to trim. Even I do not know a better way.
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Maybe I can compare the speed with `boost::trim`? Will that give us any insight?
<shrit[m]> Yes, but we are entering the loop in all cases, I have a reserve on this method, I am not sure if we really need to trim. Even I do not know a better way.
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Maybe I can compare the speed with `boost::trim`? Will that give us any insight?
< shrit[m]> it will not give us a good measure, since you did not remove `boost::spirit`
<shrit[m]> it will not give us a good measure, since you did not remove `boost::spirit`
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Okay, I am actually almost done with removing `boost::spirit` I just need to handle the case of quoted text, other than that it's almost done...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Okay, I am actually almost done with removing `boost::spirit` I just need to handle the case of quoted text, other than that it's almost done...
< rcurtin[m]> you can even avoid the substring call in the case where there is no whitespace:
< rcurtin[m]> ```
< rcurtin[m]> std::string result = (endIndex - startIndex == string.size()) ? std::move(string) : string.substring(startIndex, endIndex - startIndex);
< rcurtin[m]> ```
< rcurtin[m]> anyway, just an idea, not sure if it is a good one or if it is helpful 😃
<rcurtin[m]> you can even avoid the substring call in the case where there is no whitespace:
<rcurtin[m]> ```
<rcurtin[m]> std::string result = (endIndex - startIndex == string.size()) ? std::move(string) : string.substring(startIndex, endIndex - startIndex);
<rcurtin[m]> ```
<rcurtin[m]> anyway, just an idea, not sure if it is a good one or if it is helpful 😃
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Okay, let me try and see what happens...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Okay, let me try and see what happens...
< heisenbuugGopiMT> I think what @shrit:matrix.org was saying is, if there are no spaces then we should not enter the function call, currently we are always calling the `trim()` even when there might be no spaces in the string.
<heisenbuugGopiMT> I think what @shrit:matrix.org was saying is, if there are no spaces then we should not enter the function call, currently we are always calling the `trim()` even when there might be no spaces in the string.
< shrit[m]> Agreed, if we followed rcurtin implementation, I think both `while` should not be called if we do not have spaces
<shrit[m]> Agreed, if we followed rcurtin implementation, I think both `while` should not be called if we do not have spaces
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Okay, let me try this out...
< heisenbuugGopiMT> I will update once I make some progress...
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Thank you @ryan:ratml.org, your code is always insightful and helpful
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Okay, let me try this out...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> I will update once I make some progress...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Thank you @ryan:ratml.org, your code is always insightful and helpful
< heisenbuugGopiMT> * Thank you @rcurtin, your code is always insightful and helpful
<heisenbuugGopiMT> * Thank you @rcurtin, your code is always insightful and helpful
< rcurtin[m]> happy to help, but, double-check it, I have not tested it 😃 it probably has some subtle bugs
<rcurtin[m]> happy to help, but, double-check it, I have not tested it 😃 it probably has some subtle bugs
< heisenbuugGopiMT> Yupp, I will...
<heisenbuugGopiMT> Yupp, I will...
< zoq[m]> <jonpsy[m]> "that's totally fine, when you'd..." <- Wednesday, but I can read the gdoc, not a problem.
<zoq[m]> <jonpsy[m]> "that's totally fine, when you'd..." <- Wednesday, but I can read the gdoc, not a problem.
<zoq[m]> rcurtin: Do you know if it's possible to create a matrix build and define the node for a specific combination?
<rcurtin[m]> hmm, I am not sure on that... I don't think I've ever tried
<rcurtin[m]> you can use `label` as a matrix axis, but I don't think that would work here
<zoq[m]> Okay, let's see if there is an option, for the bandicoot build I like to use the same job for different configs.
<zoq[m]> And since I can't serve all configs with the same node I would have to split it up.
<rcurtin[m]> yeah; maybe there is a plugin, if there is no option for it?