mmind00 changed the topic of #linux-rockchip to: Rockchip development discussion | public log at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip
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<hx030> anyone here know any good uncensored llm model that works fine with rknn-llm?
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<rah> anyone know whether the upcoming RK3576 will need a proprietary DDR training blob like the RK3588?
<rah> There are still some missing parts and the most important that is remaining right now is the DDR training blob, which is still closed source.
<rah> oops
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<Emantor> rah: RK3576 uses DDR4, you won't get around the proprietary blob. DDR4 training sequences are required during every boot and are usually proprietary.
<rah> hmm :-/
<rah> I note the RK3399 support LPDDR4 but doesn't required a blob?
<qschulz> rah: someone reverse engineered the DDR blob
<qschulz> so you have to do it yourself or wait for someone to do it
<qschulz> but Rockchip will not do it
<rah> oh did they? O_o
<rah> very interesting
<qschulz> rah: mmmmm i'm doubting myself now
<qschulz> PX30 was upstreamed by Rockchip, same for RK3399
<psydroid> are there any plans to reverse engineer the RK3588 blob?
<rah> for me, REing the RK3588 DDR training blob wouldn't get me much because the GPU still requires a blob
<rah> and I'd imagine the 3rd gen Valhall blob would be more complicated than DDR training
<psydroid> so apart from Panthor you still need a blob?
<qschulz> psydroid: there's a FW you need yes, even with the open-source drivers
<qschulz> mali_csffw.bin
<rah> psydroid: yes
<psydroid> I don't have any RK3588 hardware yet, but I was thinking of getting some by the end of the year
<rah> I discovered the blob was needed after shelling out for an Orange Pi 5, was very much not impressed
<qschulz> though this has nothing to do with Rockchip :)
<psydroid> and what kind of ISA do these blobs use?
<psydroid> all I have is an Orange Pi Win Plus from 2018 and a Jetson Nano from 2019
<psydroid> because I was waiting for a powerful successor such as Orange Pi 5 Plus and similar boards
<psydroid> s/2018/2017/
<rah> "But here comes the second major change brought by CSF hardware: firmware-assisted scheduling. The GPU not only embeds its unified shader cores (used to execute shader code) and the Command Execution Unit (the block processing the CSF instructions), it also has a Cortex-M7 microcontroller in front, that is here to do some high level queue scheduling." --
<rah> I believe the blob is for the M7
<psydroid> all-right, so that means getting familiar with that instruction set
<psydroid> I don't know how it differs from ARMv8-A, but I'll find out
<rah> from #panfrost a while ago:
<rah> 13:45 < HdkR> Fancy little Cortex-M4 cores need their code to run :P
<rah> 13:51 < robmur01> I'd hope it's something newer than an M4 ;)
<rah> 13:53 < HdkR> Maybe an M7 :P
<rah> so looks like M7
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