17:51 <mint_TVH> I am running Tvheadend on LMDE6 (based on Debian 12). I see on the cloudsmith repo that updates for Tvheadend is being regularly packaged for Debian 11 (latest was just over a day ago), but that the last update for 12 was 10 months ago. Is there a reason updates are not being packaged for 12?

18:16 <htsbot> [discord] <chewitt> It's a good question 🙂

18:17 <htsbot> [discord] <chewitt> the CI builds are failing on some distro combinations

18:17 <htsbot> [discord] <chewitt> or to be specific, the build succeeds but the upload to cloudsmith fails

19:23 <mint_TVH> I see what you are talking about. It looks to me like the `support/cloudsmith.sh` script is falling back to pip2 on line 59 (same for 61, but it never gets there) because pip complains of needing a venv. I think this was a requirement in python 3.11+ for "externally managed" environments to use a venv for installing packages so as not to conflict with system packages. The easy solution seems to be adding a case for python 3.11+ and using either

19:23 <mint_TVH> `--break-system-packages` or `pipx`. I can work on a PR for this (or another solution if there's a better one) if that would be helpful.

19:34 <mint_TVH> On an unrelated note, what does HTS stand for?

19:34 <chewitt> I suspect the 'best' solution is to use simple curl commands instead of the cloudsmith binary tools, as that would omit a load of image setup complexity

19:35 <chewitt> but an interim fix that works around the current failure would also be a step forwards

19:37 <chewitt> HTSP is "Home TV Streaming Protocol" according to ye olde wiki but no guarantees HTS is entirely derived the same way

19:37 <chewitt> I'm tempted to start a properly named channel and then kick/encourage people to change over :)

19:40 <mint_TVH> I like the substitution for plain curl; but I'd never heard of cloudsmith until looking into the packaging so I may not be able to implement that solution. I assume cloudsmith has docs on that though, so perhaps it isn't that difficult? I'll look and see.

19:41 <chewitt> I've been playing around with their API to investigate how to keep the repo under their free quota limit

19:42 <chewitt> It's not that hard, but you'd need an API token to test anything

19:44 <chewitt> the cloudsmith.sh script also needs changes to support rpm packaging in addition to deb

19:46 <mint_TVH> I've seen HTS other places too, like the Kodi plugin: `pvr.hts`. I see that the TVH project is in the middle of a reorganization and infrastructure shift, so a new channel could probably fit in a part of that process if you wanted, no?

19:47 <mint_TVH> I have no experience with RPM, so I wouldn't be the right person for that.

19:51 <mint_TVH> Re. difficulty and API token: I expected as much. Good that it's not hard, but because of the API token it's probably best you handled that.

19:52 <mint_TVH> Well, I suppose if I created my own account on cloudsmith I could test with that? I don't know if that's viable though. I'll look into their API a little first before I say anything.

19:55 <shibboleth> wow, a bona fide message in this channel? /marks the calendar :P

19:58 <mint_TVH> Haha. I came for a question about that lack of bookworm updates.

19:59 <shibboleth> well, tvh isn't really something for which i'd rely on packages

20:00 <shibboleth> for proper video hwaccel you're gonna have to build it yourself anyway

20:00 <mint_TVH> Well, it started when I saw that regular (every few days) package builds for bullseye, but the latest for bookworm was 10 months ago.

20:03 <mint_TVH> Could you explain a bit mroe about "proper video hwaccel"? I've been a bit confused about that for a while.

20:08 <mint_TVH> Oh, I almost forgot to ask. Since you said that the package build succeeded, just that the upload failed, is there somewhere that I could download the package from? It looks to me like the .deb was uploaded as an artifact, but I don't see how to download it.

20:09 <mint_TVH> *cloudsmith upload filed; artifact was uploaded to GH