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<cone-887>
ffmpeg James Almer master:b94b3eac0e01: avformat/mov: use a more descriptive name for variables of type HEIFItem
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<jdek>
michaelni: who is ‘the same person as before’ this vote is kinda vague
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<elenril>
jdek: spicy
<jdek>
I wanted to make an argument to remove all the similar output devices too actually
<elenril>
setting a precedent would be good enough
<elenril>
will probably have to be decided by TC anyway
<jdek>
yep my thought as well
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<cone-346>
ffmpeg Gyan Doshi master:7375a6ca7b4a: avformat/wavenc: use strtoull for UMID conversion
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<elenril>
wtf, my phone has been randomly showing time that's 20 minutes off for the past two days
<JEEB>
o_O
<elenril>
is someone running a troll cell towere here or what
<JEEB>
wrong tz I'd understand, but offset like that is quite funky
<aaabbb>
you're living 20 minutes out of sync with the rest of time
<elenril>
right now it shows 11:56
<JEEB>
:D
<elenril>
never happened before
<aaabbb>
maybe it has some openntpd-esque slow skew correction thingy
<michaelni>
jdek, i thought everyone knows thilo did the work.
<elenril>
"i thought everyone knows" is the opposite of transparency
<michaelni>
elenril, iam a human, i thought you know but just making sure
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* michaelni
wonders how mails would look if everyone mentions everything that someone maybe doesnt know
<JEEB>
thankfully it's usually not zero or one hundred kind of thing.
<JEEB>
elenril: replied to the internal things thread
<michaelni>
also "<michaelni> elenril, iam a human, i thought you know but just making sure" was intended to be funny, the lack of LOLs makes me doubt that joke worked so just making sure people know it was intended to be a joke
<JEEB>
:)
<elenril>
JEEB: thank you, much appreciated
<elenril>
michaelni: the context makes it rather not funny
<kierank>
michaelni: what fork are you talking about?
<elenril>
i get the impression that you largely blame the drama around STF on the people who are objecting to it
<jdek>
How does STF work if multiple people want to work on the same thing? I would like to work on the HEVC decoder too
<JEEB>
another|: right. no wonder it wasn't under videolan gitlab's rist/
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<michaelni>
jdek, IIUC its possible for multiple people to work on something, but you should ask jonatan, iam the wrong person to explain this, ive never done STF before
<michaelni>
i guess multiple people would sign paperwork then later send invoices that say how much each person worked
<elenril>
lmao, wayland sure is a mess
<elenril>
every window manager needs explicit support for everything
<elenril>
"totally the future trust us"
<JEEB>
yea there only relatively recently became a "reference" compositor library kind of thing
<JEEB>
so everyone started with their own
<michaelni>
kierank, if someone wants to work on the merge suggestion (s)he would complete the entry on the wiki with what (s)he exactly would offer for what exact payment. I did not investigate what forks exist, i know of one but as iam not doing that work its better for whoever is interrested to look at that and complete the entry
<kierank>
Lol
<jdek>
michaelni: which fork active currently? I’m not aware of any ffmpeg forks
<michaelni>
jdek, librempeg last commit is 3 weeks ago that qualifies as active
<michaelni>
the price for the merge of course needs to be very different if that is the last activity vs activity continuing
<kierank>
It's so vague, how on earth can you send this to stf
<michaelni>
kierank, do you understand the concept of a wiki where people collaborate to build a document ?
<kierank>
Sorry no, I'm too "weak" to understand that
<kierank>
I especially like the part where we vote on an incomplete wiki page.
<kierank>
And yet somehow the statement of work will be so watertight that the GA can't reject the code.
<cosminaught>
as far as I can tell the vote is that an application should be submitted, not on the final contents of said application. The wiki is still open for folks to edit and each individual project / dollar amount would have to be approved before submission to STF
<kierank>
"The Application and Scope of Work from the WIKI shall be submitted"
<cosminaught>
in
<cosminaught>
principle, if it's meant to be final the wiki ought to be locked