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<SiFuh__> farkuhar: ChatGPT asked a stupid question "Do you have a favorite time to crack one open? Like post-project, late afternoon, or just “whenever it feels right” kind of thing?" so I replied "Yes, when I am awake"
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<zorz_> he will start upsetting me...
<zorz_> -- Packages updated
<zorz_> nftables
<zorz_> prt-get: updated successfully
<zorz_> [zorz@vbox ~]$ doas /etc/rc.d/nftables restart
<zorz_> /etc/rc.d/nftables: 34: podman: not found
<zorz_> & my nervous system is not so good lately
<zorz_> 46 show)
<zorz_> I 47 $PROG $SHOWOPTS
<zorz_> 50 _store "$2"
<zorz_> 48 ;;
<zorz_> 49 store)
<zorz_> 51 ;;
<SiFuh__> zorz_: Go spam #crux-musl :-P
<zorz_> hahahaha
<zorz_> i spam #crux
<SiFuh__> No reply from anyone after I made the comment about the poorly written /etc/rc file. Fucking faggots
<SiFuh__> How embarrasing to promote a new release and then push out that shit code.
<zorz_> /etc/rc??? what is this??? does it compileS?? use cargo? :PPpp
<SiFuh__> zorz_: No point you reading it. You suck at coding too.
<zorz_> yeah yeah yeah
<SiFuh__> :-P
<SiFuh__> zorz_: Well this rc script has been completely mauled by beerman and it looks like it was written by a novice.
<SiFuh__> I suggested jue should review it and fix it or get beerman to fix it. But the channel fell silent.
<zorz_> this is politics
<zorz_> its beyond coding
<zorz_> :P
<zorz_> hehehe
<zorz_> anyway they might moorn pope francis
<SiFuh__> This is what happens when you a big-headed child take over your house.
<SiFuh__> you let a*
<zorz_> i mean crux, is quite straight forward, init, rc scripts, usr/share configs. how you can mess this.
<farkuhar> SiFuh__: channel fell silent, no surprise there. But did you get a reply from stenur?
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: Nope
<SiFuh__> zorz_: Introducing sissy, girlie colouring in to satisify your desire for self masturbation with eye candy.
<zorz_> manual
<farkuhar> manual in contrast to automatic? I accidentally paid my latest credit card bill *twice* by thinking that the arrival of paper statements meant that the auto-pay option had been deactivated. So I sent them a physical cheque. But then they debited the bank account anyway, one day after processing my cheque!
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: Hehe, cheque. Dinosaur. Credit card? What the hell do you have that for?
<SiFuh__> Actually I am suprised you spelled cheque correctly :-) Nice one.
<farkuhar> In fact, the arrival of paper statements only meant that my throwaway email account was giving them delivery failures when they tried sending notifications, and that's why they resorted to physical statements. But the auto-pay option was never turned off.
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: I had one that went like this. I received a letter stating that I have remunerations owing to me in my name. The letter stated that I should not reply to this letter as it would mean I have changed address and will need to then notify them off my address change. I read it a few times and called my mother over and said "Does this say what I think it says?" She looked at it and said "How
<SiFuh__> absurd is that. Where is this letter from?" I said "Some insurance company that belongs to the department of transport"
<SiFuh__> After 6 months, I called them and gave them the reference number. They hung up on me. So I emailed them and they asked a reference number. Then never replied. Went back to Asia, came back to Australia and every month for 7 years. I'd call and email the reference number. Soon as they got it they'd stop talking or replying to me.
<SiFuh__> Then on the 7th year out of the blue I recieved payment from them.
<farkuhar> There is a clause on the paper statement, to the effect that the auto-pay amount might be less than the statement balance, if other payments are processed by the time the debit is scheduled. But a one-day gap (Apr 2 to Apr 3) might not be enough for this clause to be worth arguing over.
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: here a funny one for you. I had a bank account in the US connected to AU bank account. The AU bank account kept charging fees for minimal balance in it. So they auto deducted from the US account. Then the US account was below limit and deducted it from the AU account (Both having fees) so these two accounts were basically withdrawing money between themselves without notifying me for several
<SiFuh__> months until the AU account was in the negative. And I recieved like 5 letters on one day stating I have overdrawn my account and will be charged if I do it 3 times more. All 5 arrived the same day. So I was charged fees from transferring without my intervention and then both accounts ended up in negative and then charged two fines from the AU bank. The US bank, no idea. It was registered in Rhode
<SiFuh__> Island so I never recieved anything. I just shut the AU account down. Later it became news worthy stuff. Not my case but others that had the same issues.
<farkuhar> SiFuh__: What idiot in their account management department thought it would be helpful to send you 5 letters in one day?
<SiFuh__> Automated
<SiFuh__> I ended up with like 30 letters by the way. Cost me about $2000 in fines and fees
<SiFuh__> That is including the US fees. I don't know about the US fines. I had the US account shut down in writing. They never told me if I had outstanding fees or fines.
<SiFuh__> Actually they never even replied. The account became closed/inactive. But I did inform them of the reason that I was shutting it down.
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: I always get shocked when the wife pays for shit on a card. A credit card. I just do cash. But she said she gets points. Then shows me every 3 months the points she has and what she can buy. But the thing is that what she buys with points she still has to pay money.
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: She shows me two weeks back a pamphlet and says she has this many points, find something you want. I said I want nothing. She says I need to use them. I said okay, choose this pressure cleaner. Your family can use it for cleaning. It actually was very useful and very powerful and it is hand held.
<SiFuh__> I use it for cleaning driveways, the gates, unblocking drains.... Hehehe It is quite lethal
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: Hahaha, the kitchen sink was blocked last year. I tried using the trucks pressure cleaner. The one I use in the jungle. Couldn't budge it. Pulled the plumbing out and went outside to clean. 1 metre long blockage. Mostly her hair! But.... it is the kitchen sink. Hmmm
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: Also another thing I was thinking about. It might not be a bad idea to introduce a dependency line for core ports. That way we can easily see what they require
<SiFuh__> Change a few rules that don't break the original CRUX rules but are beneficial for the CRUX users
<SiFuh__> Actually I think that the reason core ports never had dependencies is because they were built long before dependency management existed. And for some reason it was just assumed to be that way and a non-existant rule appeared from nothing.
<zorz_> SiFuh__: the new rules of CRUX are gay!
<farkuhar> zorz_: join #crux-musl and commiserate with us about the "rules of CRUX" (and who's allowed to break them with impunity)
<zorz_> beerman
<zorz_> vote beerman for a gay experince
<zorz_> he runs podman
<zorz_> this thing is for music? no?
<zorz_> its a kind of gay container
<zorz_> hhahaha
<farkuhar> podman is an alternative to docker, for creating clean containers. Don't know what a gay container is, though.
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: zorz_: actually emmett1 was discussing with me that if users are unhappy with a maintainer/developer there should be a vote as to whether or not the keep them in. To get back in they should prove their worth again.
<farkuhar> When did this update to /etc/rc.d/nftables come out, anyway? Mine still has no reference to podman, and there's no corresponding file in /var/lib/pkg/rejected awaiting the rejmerge review.
<SiFuh__> And strictly following CRUX's guidelines and not some self serving desire to mold the distro around oneself and ignore what users really want. Even to the point we can vote out ALL the maintainers and vote in new maintainers
<SiFuh__> I was contemplating making a set of commandments that must be followed for CRUX. Like a constitution or the 10 commandments. If users think it has been violated than the violator should be ousted until further discussion proves otherwise. That way CRUX can be kept to it's purest form.
<SiFuh__> But that would turn the commandments into law, CRUX a religion and all of Pharisees
<SiFuh__> of us*
<SiFuh__> zorz_: I broke ChatGPT again
<SiFuh__> zorz_: Join #crux-musl. farkuhar needs all of #crux-social to join #crux-musl to prove he is as popular as me. Hahaha
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<SiFuh__> farkuhar: Oh had a funny run in at the hardware store today.
<SiFuh__> farkuhar: basically how it went down. Probably missed a few sentences though. https://dpaste.com/4KRK9UBNV.txt
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